[modeleng] Re: Parts prices - adjustable spanners
- From: ian ridley <ridleyian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: post modeleng <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:25:13 +0000
I have a 'Bahco' adjustable which was part of a Volvo toolkit, and I can vouch
for the fact that it's helix is different to all the others that I have.Drives
me mad as I keep turning it the wrong way!
Regards
Ian
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:44:09 -0700
> From: sandfordfamily@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices - adjustable spanners
> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I have been told that the "adjustable spanner" or Crescent as it is commonly
> known was invented by the Swedish company Bahco, but that Mr. Crescent (or
> whoever started / ran the Crescent Company) saw it, reversed the helix on the
> adjuster, and then patented his version of the device. Or it may be that he
> got around the Bahco patent by reversing the helix on the adjuster, but
> didn't patent his version, not sure which there. He then proceeded to sell it
> and because it sold widely we now have his name associated with it. I assume
> that it sold more widely than the Bahco one because of maybe better pricing
> or a wider distribution network.
>
> I can't vouch for the accuracy of this info but at the moment (until advised
> otherwise) believe it to be correct.
>
> Stephen Sandford
> In down-under Wellington, New Zealand.
>
> >________________________________
> > From: peter chadwick <g8on@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2012 2:08 AM
> >Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> >
> >It is said that the adjustable spanner was invented by a Swedish blacksmith,
> >which may or may not be correct. What is true is that in French, it is
> >called 'un clef Anglaise' or 'English key'.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >=======================================>Message Received: Sep 25 2012, 02:41
> >PM
> >From: kjones9154@xxxxxxx
> >To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Cc:
> >Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> >
> >Some years ago I worked for a conveyor company and we installed a conveyor
> >in a copper mine at Twin Buttes Tucson. This conveyor had a huge gearbox
> >with which we supplied a set of tools. I remember two Texans being very
> >amused by a large spanner from this tool box with the manufacturers name of
> >:- 'King Dick'!
> >Is it true that the name spanner is derived from the tool that was used to
> >'span' or load cross bows?
> >And while we are on the subject - why do we call that little piece of metal
> >that puts a female thread in a hole --- a 'tap'? in the parallel world that
> >is not engineering this is what we use to turn the water on!!! or is that a
> >'faucet or perhaps fawcett' Jesse?
> >
> >
> >Ken Jones in showery Berkshire.
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jesse
> >To: modeleng
> >Sent: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:12
> >Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> >
> >
> >On 9/24/2012 3:46 PM, Ken Strauss wrote:
> >Ken, you wins the seegar even though you left out one letter in Mr.
> >Mon_e_cky's name .You must have a copy of the same Audels' Manual that I
> >have.
> >Adjustable open wrenches are all called Crescent Wrenches over here in
> >the American colony probably because the first ones were made by the
> >Crescent Tool company . Never heard one called a "shifter". Spanners
> >usually have a large opening with either a lug on the ends of the jaws
> >or else steel pins, depending on how it is to be used. I have seen a
> >spanner or two in which one leg could pivot so it would fit more than
> >one size packing gland or whatever.
> >> You're probably going to tell some story about "Charles Moncky"...
> >>
> >> I thought that an adjustable open end wrench was commonly called a
> >> "shifter"
> >> across the pond. I believe that a "spanner" is a fixed jaw open end wrench.
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-
> >>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jesse
> >>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:09 PM
> >>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> >>>
> >>> Barry,
> >>> That I can understand as I have a turret (capstan) where my tailstock
> >> normally
> >>> goes, but I do a lot of work that requires the turret which has
> >>> 6 stations so the tailstock sits on the floor. Currently, the box tool, a
> >> threading
> >>> die and a couple of drill chucks are mounted on the turret.
> >>> Sometimes there is also a center cut end mill to allow facing of the work
> >> and a
> >>> center drill in another chuck.
> >>> Funny how two nations with the same language call items by different
> >> terms. A
> >>> few years ago I had a problem with "linisher" which is belt sander over
> >> here.
> >>> Ah well, we will soon be building weapons to slow down the Taliban and I
> >>> suppose I will have to make some sort of spear thrower or something.
> >>> Several years ago I had one of our loggers ask me where the "chuck" for
> >> the
> >>> drill press was. I pointed out to him that it was in plain sight on the
> >> drill press,
> >>> but he still couldn't see it. It turned out that he called the chuck key a
> >> "chuck"
> >>> and it had fallen to the floor where he didn't see it. Loggers is big
> >> tough blokes,
> >>> but sometimes have funny names for tools. Over here every adjustable open
> >>> end spanner (wrench) is called a "Crescent wrench", I suppose because the
> >> first
> >>> ones were made by Crescent Tool Company. Spanners are usually forked
> >> tools
> >>> (Y
> >>> shaped) with pins that fit into notches or holes on steam packing glands
> >> and the
> >>> like. Little delicate adjustable spanners are used to unscrew the back of
> >> wrist
> >>> watches.
> >>>
> >>> This brings to the so called "Monkey Wrench". Now how many of you gents
> >>> know where that name came from?? When I started work as a machinist
> >>> apprentice at the railroad in 1953, I was issued a ball peen hammer, a
> >>> flashlight, a 10" Mill Bastard File, and was supposed to get a "Monkey
> >> Wrench",
> >>> but didn't. I still have the flashlight and it works as well as it did 60
> >> years ago
> >>> though the reflector has darkened considerably. I have a couple of "Monkey
> >>> Wrenches" just as curiosities.
> >>> Now, who is going to get the cigar for explaining where Monkey Wrenches
> >> got
> >>> their name?? Alan, Tel, Clif, Al Messy????? Only reason I know is because
> >> I
> >>> accidentally saw it in my 1921 Audel's Mechanic's Manual.
> >>>> Jesse,
> >>>>
> >>>> I think that the terminology in the U.S. is "Turret lathe". They were
> >>>> the original "mass production" lathe.
> >>>>
> >>>> The capstan is a device sat on the cross slide of the lathe which
> >>>> indexes round every time the cross slide is wound to the right. The
> >>>> capstan is pivoted on a vertical axis and contains a number of tools
> >>>> (usually 6) located radially.
> >>>>
> >>>> Almost every bit of film showing factory work during WW2 shows Capstan
> >>>> lathes at work.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Barrie
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Jesse"
> >>>> To:
> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:56 PM
> >>>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Parts prices
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Well well, the roller box is very similar to my homemade box tool,
> >>>>> but of course much nicer. Both accomplish the same thing. No rollers
> >>>>> in my box tool though. I just use brass bushings that fit the stock
> >>>>> material which is mostly 5/16" or 1/4" in dia.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Still nothing on a capstan lathe. Is this a type of lathe that is
> >>>>> installed on a sailing ship capstan????
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jesse the curious one in Troy Tennessee
> >>>>>> It's one of these:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.tangi-flow.com/rollerboxes.php
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alan
> >>>>>> On 24/09/2012 01:02, AC Messer wrote:
> >>>>>>> I am familiar with a capstan lathe but I too am iterested as to
> >>>>>>> what is a "roller box".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Al Messer
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