[modeleng] Re: 12" scale loco
- From: "Tony Wells" <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:50:59 -0000
Two comments here, one serious and one somewhat less so - it is not so many
months ago that we lost several European members of the group through a
surfeit of anti European comments from certain senior group members, so
let's not drive the rest of them away please! As for the Flying Scotsman,
which my uncle always said was a swine to keep stoked when HE was a fireman
on it (!!!), it still remains the most popular model railway engine in
Britain, and so obviously has captured the imagination of the general
public!
Tony.
PS, I have got some of those safety boots too Barrie! <VBG>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barrie Purslow" <bpduo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:12 AM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: 12" scale loco
>
> Jesse,
>
>
>> I don't care how badly I trample on your sensitive toes,
>
> No problem - our Health & Safety Executive have decreed that Safety Boots
> must be worn when even just talking about steam locos :-))
>
>> Frenchie lokie is just plain YOUGLY. If you want to see how pretty a
>> steam
>> locomotive can look, locate a photo of one of the Southern Pacific
>> "Daylight" locomotives. There was real beauty in steam power with the
>> Norfolk and Western J series streamliners coming in second, but for
>> genuine
>> ugliness in American steam power, one must look to the Milwaukee Road's
>> "Hiawatha" lokies or the New Yawk Central's "Commodore Vanderbilt".
>
> Hmmm.....most interesting - I've just spent about half an hour looking at
> pictures of these four loco's. The funny thing is - they all look pretty
> similar to my eyes!! The "ugly" ones look to be more streamlined versions
> of
> the "beautiful" ones. They remind me of old American cars - rather brash
> and
> "in yer face", but I wouldn't describe any of them as ugly............ or
> beautiful.
>
>> There are a lot of very pretty British locomotives such as the "Flying
>> Scotsman", but to me the general run of the mill UK locomotives just
>> "don't
>> look right". Yeah, I know they run/ran great, but they still look strange
>> for the most part. [;-)
>
> "Flying Scotsman" is an engine that is not generally popular with real
> enthusiasts (I said "generally" guys). I think because it gets a lot of
> publicity and is very popular with the general public. You really need to
> look at an LMS "Coronation Class" Pacific to see the pinnacle of British
> locomotive design.
> It's becoming clear that one's upbringing is very influential in forming
> opinions. My father did 47 years on the (LMS) footplate and hated any
> Southern Region locomotive "Won't pull the skin off a rice pudding" he
> would
> tell me and, to this day, Southern Region loco's leave me cold.
>
>> Is this enough International agitation for one email and is WWIII about
>> to
>> start between your former colony of America and Jolly Olde England over
>> this
>> important difference of opinion? Would a pint of Guinness's Stout calm
>> you
>> down???
>
> I'm a Gin & Tonic man these days - in keeping with my young, executive
> image!!
>
> Now one last thing Jesse, old boy - just take it easy on our French
> cousins - we're all Europeans now you know! (cough, splutter, cough,
> cough...........)
>
> Barrie
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