> it is not so many > months ago that we lost several European members of the group through a > surfeit of anti European comments from certain senior group members, so > let's not drive the rest of them away please! This is news to me - methinks they protested remarkably quietly. Barrie MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.