Upps! & not to forgot pocket full of relays along with 4017... Nice explanation Sir Bagus. no offense to anyone, really. :D just comparing two different technology. comparing 4017 with simplicity here at my end... -- -- Please encourage recycling, reuse or repairing of E-waste. ░7░3░ ░d░e░ ░V░U░3░S░X░T░