off-topic ----------- here trying to understand, why some DX Amateurs transfers via PalPal double the amount, that I actually asked for? Ha Haa some say worth it :D & some sends smily... Friend, I will try but it won't be easy returning, here RBI won't let Indians keep any balance in PayPal, equally I faces problem buy any thing online or return... (so comes barter system) --------------------------------------------- I had a open thread & open pole discussion for small relays (though available online) but no body cared to comment except Farhan & Guru. some say it's available from nearby electronic-vendor, some say it's not. & we had gone with majority.... for those already have PCB plzz give a try installing a diode switching or better BJT on same holes that for relay. ( if unavailable in your locality) .I did that @ BFO 5-6 years ago making Farhan designed original BITX go multibander, & it worked well. Will try visit Market ( 15 KM ) away, as soon as M free from dispatch. yap, PayPal deducting surcharge, suppose out of $13.00 USD I get $12.13 USD & $17.00 USD = $15.95 USD & new account can only withdraw after 21 days, so some investment, but OK. Investment on shipping more then on product itself. Hi Indian PayPal ID = Sudeeplohia1986@xxxxxxxxx a dedicated HAM from UK just contributed his PayPal ID = ravimiranda@xxxxxxxxx (if it can make final cost down to you all, if selected as gift, plzz give it a try) Results can be mailed on info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx otherwise no issue with service charge 4.4% + $0.30 USD Per transaction... It's easier for me if filled extra information in note attached, just below flag. From Germany 15,00 shocked? it's actually 15.00 :D & a new learning --------------------------------------- A true VU HAM mailed "In case you have a shortage now, please first provide the boards to our Ham friends from Abroad" In that case I'll give him mine, earlier I always etched most my PCBs with Ferric Chloride. no issue found in PCB from Adrian until yet from any (some I already corrected before production) , but still I insist, let it be for hard players as in now... they might contribute more in initial stage of development. also M not giving away to New Bees unless they have a experienced Mentor nearby... -- http://www.lohiaelectronics.com/sandeep/mimima.htm