[mac4theblind] Re: What is the MacOS equivalent...
- From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 06:20:49 -0500
on the other hand, if youdescribe the function, you will get the proper result.
There are many folk on the mack for instance who have never heard of Kurzweil
so if you ask if there is a kurzweil for mac, you get blank stares. It's
better to say: is there an ocr program for the blind for the mac.
Believe me, dispite *your* experience, when dealing with the bigger picture,
it's best to address mac os directly.
On Nov 29, 2011, at 5:38 AM, Tracy Duffy wrote:
I respect the opinions that are given here, but may I say that when I
transitioned in June, it was helpful to me to at least use window terms or
reference points when trying to find how how to accomplish what I needed or
wanted to accomplish. Personally, I hate having my hand swatted every time I
make a reference to a windows term. If a body is brand new to the Mac, they
don't always know the proper term and the only way they may know to ask a
question is by using the terms that they do know. It is true that you can't
expect the Mac to work exactly like a windows PC, but for gooeness sake, let's
work with people who are trying to learn. The same thing goes when a body is
trying to find software that works with a Mac. Often times they may know a
program that did what they wanted in windoes, so they will ask if there is a
version for the Mac, or if anyone knows of a similar program for the Mac. I
don't see why they have to get a lecture about forgetting windows terms and
programs. Just give them an answer. I only say these things because I grew very
tired of it when I was asking a lot of questions. Yes. I learned the Mac in a
very short period of time, but that didn't mean I had all the answers. I know
you all mean well, but try not to give people the impression that they've done
something wrong by asking a question. I'll step down from my soap box now.
(smile)
tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx
2 Chronicles 20, 21B: "Give thanks to God, his faithful
love endures forever."
On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:07 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> That's the way you really have to approach it. Yes, there is the
> temptation and, perhaps, it's necessary to have Windows reference points to
> keep things straight in your mind. However, if you keep thinking in Windows
> terms and like you are using a Windows screen reader, I can tell you that
> your progress will be slow and quite frustrating. You have to cut the cord
> and think Mac and VoiceOver.
>
>
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> On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>
>> Not really. I caught on to the mac in about 10 minutes and tha'ts why. I
>> through windows out the window so to speak.. I"m not sayign I learned
>> everythign in 1 day, but I grasped the consept in about 10 minutes and spent
>> the next day takign notes in class and learning the mac as a brand new OS
>> forgetting the fact that I ever learned windows.
>>
>> Take care all.
>> On Nov 28, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>
>>> I'd have to agree here with Sarah's comments. the mac is very similar to
>>> windows, but it's just different enough to really screw you if not careful.
>>> It's kind a like the difference in Spanish vs. Portuguese.
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:14 PM
>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: What is the MacOS equivalent...
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah it would be. the doc in windows is just like the doc on the mac, But I
>>> would quit comparing mac to windows starting now and learn the terminology
>>> and use it. Don't go looking for equivilents as they are not going to be
>>> easy to spot half the time.
>>> On Nov 28, 2011, at 4:59 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>>
>>>> that'd be the doc right? I don't see a taskbar on the mac.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 27, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh yeah. oops? forgot about that. I don't much pay attention to that.
>>>> thanks for the tip I forgot lol!
>>>> On Nov 27, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you go across the task bar, it will tell you when an ap is running and
>>>>> when it is not. For example, it will say mail running or if it just says
>>>>> mail it is not running at the moment and you'll need to open it if you
>>>>> want to work within that program. Or, if an ap is running and you don't
>>>>> want it to be, you'll know to close it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> 2 Chronicles 20, 21B: "Give thanks to God, his faithful love endures
>>>>> forever."
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the doc. and I dunno if there is a way to speak the dots. Hopefully
>>>>>> someone can help there.
>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 10:25 PM, JULIO PEREZ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To the Windows Task Manager and/or Taskbar? That is, the place where
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> files are listed so that one can close or switch to them. The materials
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> reading say that open files are marked with a "bright dot" next to their
>>>>>>> icons but VO does not describe such dots. I only heard a single such
>>>>>>> mention
>>>>>>> after waking up the system. It spoke the name of the running
>>>>>>> application. Is
>>>>>>> there a way to make that happen as desired?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Julio C. Perez
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