[lit-ideas] Re: US Congress and the Israeli Attack on Lebanon

  • From: "Stan Spiegel" <writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:28:50 -0400

Andy -
I'm angry with and very critical of this administration in Washington. When I criticize Bush -- the dishonesty, his incompetence, his effort at intimidating those who disagree with him, his expansion of executive authority, his curbing of civil liberties, etc, etc -- I'm not being anti-American. I'm being a patriot. But if bin Laden were on this listserv -- someone who's committed to the destruction of America -- articulating my views would be foolish. Why should I give bin Laden more to use against us?


That's how I feel about Omar. He looks at Israel the way bin Laden looks at America: committed to its destruction. Should I share my disappointment with Israel, it would give him more to use against us. Why would I do that?

To you Israel's future may be academic. To me it's not.

Stan
Portland, ME


----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:41 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: US Congress and the Israeli Attack on Lebanon



Perhaps you can share articles that criticize Israel's attacks on Lebanon.
Surely you can find some. Not only do you never ever criticize Israel, you
even refuse to see what they're doing to the Palestinians, as if this
conflict sprang out of some sort of vacuum. You even call those who oppose
the war anti-semitic. How do you square those ideas?




[Original Message]
From: Stan Spiegel <writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 7/24/2006 11:19:24 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: US Congress and the Israeli Attack on Lebanon

I do share Articles that I find stimulating...and get in trouble because
it's often thought they represent my thinking. Since there are obvious
anti-semites on board this listserv, I'm not sharing anything critical of
Israel. I know Israel isn't perfect. Just as I know I'm not perfect. I
am.
I'm ready and willing to criticize its government, its policies, how it
interacts with Palestinians -- just as I'm ready and willing to criticize
the Bush administration.

SS


----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: US Congress and the Israeli Attack on Lebanon



> Sounds like the best defense is an offense Stan. Do you ever share > articles with which you don't agree? If so, how about sharing some
which
> criticize Israel?
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Stan Spiegel <writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: 7/24/2006 10:22:01 PM
>> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: US Congress and the Israeli Attack on Lebanon
>>
>> Simon writes:
>> Omar did not write the paragraph you refer to. The author, one Stephen
>> Zunes, the Editor, John Feffer, and the source, Foreign Policy In
Focus,
> are
>> all clearly included at the top of the post.
>>
>> SS writes:
>> One thing I've learned about Omar, Simon, is that he never shares an
> article
>> with which he doesn't agree 100%. He's not sending articles to
stimulate
> us.
>> He's sending them as an extension of himself. It's a good way for him
to
>> hide his anti-semitism. It gives him plausible deniability. Omar's a
very
>> bright guy. He doesn't need you to defend him, which you do
continually.
> How
>> come?
>>
>
>
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