> > SS writes: > You talk about the Palestinians as if they were good > while the Israelis are > bad. But who attacked whom? Israel was attacked. And > that makes the > Palestinians the victims? *There has been a series of mutual provocations lasting for months. Israel has picked on one of these and decided to use it as a pre-text to escalate the conflict. > Israel gave back Gaza. As soon as they did, they > were attacked. Giving back > Gaza was interpreted as weakness. *Israel didn't give back anything. It just withdrew its forces from Gaza temporarily, without any political agreement, without any guarantees that it will not return to it again. It continued to prevent communication between Gaza and the West Bank, and to blockade it economically. > > It doesn't look like a desire for self-determination > motivates them, does > it? If it did, they'd be reaching out to Israel (or > to other states in the > area) for help in achieving their goals. They > aren't. *What do you man by *reaching out" ? Both the Fatah and the Hamas want to negotiate with Israel. Israel refuses to negotiate with the Hamas and doesn't take Fatah seriously. > There's a lot to criticize Israel for -- but not > here. Israel is defending > itself. And doing it with disproportionate force, it > seems to me, is the > only way to show Hamas and Hezbollah they mean > business...they're not > someone to trifle with. > I feel proud of Israel. I think they're doing a > damned good job. I have no > mixed feelings about Israel beating the shit out of > Hezbollah -- Iran's > proxy in the area. *So you not only approve but feel proud that Israel is killing civilians, destroying the economy of a neghbouring country etc. What would your "criticisms of Israel" consist in, one wonders ? You are a Zionist militant and the statements above illustrate it. O.K. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html