Didn't mean to send that so fast.
Mike Geary
Apparently you don't read all my posts. Hrummmph!
In my response to Lawrence's hypothetical rancher I certainly questioned the free will of the rancher and his hirelings in getting the cattle to Montana.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter D. Junger" <junger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The Final Finger of Fate
In the recent discussion of fate and determination no one has, so far as I have noticed, said anything about "Free Will."
But many of the doubts about determinism seem to be based on the fact that if everything is determined, then we can't have Free Will. (And, of course, if everything happens without a cause, then Free Will couldn't cause anything to happen.)
The odd thing is that hardly anyone ever mentions that "Free Will" was invented by St. Augustine in a desperate attempt to reconcile God's omnipotence with our frequent damnation.
No concept like "Free Will" existed before then, nor does, as far as I know, any such concept exist among any people whose thought has not been influenced by Christian teachings that espouse that incoherent idea.
This is not to say that one does not "will" things; it is just to suggest that what one wills is as determined as everything else is.
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Peter D. Junger--Case Western Reserve University Law School--Cleveland, OH
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