[lit-ideas] Re: "Promissory Materialism" Correction

  • From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:56:02 +0000 (GMT)

It would be a fool's errand, imo, to try to extract from this post any clear 
argument against the view that A and B contradict. 


However, all is not lost - these exchanges are confirming that my posts and 
others' are getting through again.


Donal



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From: Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011, 18:16
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: "Promissory Materialism" Correction


dude, that you don't follow ain't my crib-
contradiction are generated by the form 
a&~a
are you clear on that?
if o
a is a type of which two tokens have to show up
are you clear?
since you like english so much check your tokens and you see that they are not 
tokens of the same type
negation is external and never internal when you need a contradiction
 
 
a- BANANAS ARE YELLOW
~a- IT IS NOT THE CASE THAT BANANAS ARE YELLOW
 
dig it/
 
best wishes
 


>>> Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx> 11/15/2011 8:06 PM >>>

I don't quite follow this, even as to whether by saying "the contradiction is 
obtained by logical negations" you mean to admit exactly that, and so admit A 
and B do contradict because one is the negation of the other. "Since you hair 
chopping", for example, is not clear or good English.

Certainly I can see no clear argument in your post that supports the view that 
A and B do not contradict.

Donal
London



________________________________
 From: Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011, 17:31
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: "Promissory Materialism" Correction


sorry, since you hair chopping
the contradiction is obtained by logical negations
your reading if correct ought to be (meaning the reading of your sentences)
 
 
a it is not the case that there is snow here
~a there is snow here
 
 
[you may decide to eliminate the space indexical and presume implicit the 
termporal one, or fix them to an arbitrary fixed point of choice-
then you have acontradiction


>>> Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx> 11/15/2011 7:16 PM >>>

My posts on the following, and the issue of materialism/physicalism as 
preferred terminology [which suggested 'World 1' is preferable to either], went 
astray last week. I take it these posts were not received on the list.  Having 
re-subscribed, where I had previously proposed:-

"A. Here there is snow.
B. Here there is no snow.
Assuming "Here" refers to same point in space-time, these A and B contradict." 
Adriano then commented:- "strictly they aren't even contradictory".

But they are contradictory and strictly so. A is equivalent to "There is such a 
thing as snow here". B is equivalent to the negation of A viz. "There is no 
such thing as snow here".

So A is a p, and B is its negation non-p: these do contradict, as any p and its 
logical negation contradict. 
D
London


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