[lit-ideas] Re: Griceiana
- From: Paul Stone <pastone@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:43:00 -0400
And they are STILL talking about him 15? Years later! I think Grice has
overtaken Willy Wagglesword as the most written about author in
history...and that's just counting jls' posts!
Also contributing nothing
On Mar 14, 2015 3:35 PM, "Mike Geary" <jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> My favorite play on Grice's name was Paul Stone's : "Jesus Grice!" I
> could hear him he crying out. Ah, yes, long live his glory and long may
> his story be told.
>
> My philosophy is quite simple: I don't know. And I probably never will
> know, but that's OK, I'm having fun anyway.
>
> So, even though this message would not qualify for publication here were
> there Relevance-Police monitoring this List, the case of the world is
> that there are no Relevance-Police monitoring this list and so this message
> will be posted to this List even though it makes no contribution to
> philosophy or literature. Indeed, were this List the least bit
> self-respecting, I would have been banned from posting anything here long
> ago. But because it is not so monitored and I have not been so banned,
> then I have been able not only to post, but to get a kick out of all the
> wild wording this List lets loose like doves from a cage at some
> celebration. I salute all you indefatigable word weavers out there.
> You've dressed my ignorance in some mighty fine garments, I must say. And
> I did say. And you make me jealous that I'm not so refined. My threads are
> all a-tangle. I snip them here.
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> "Grice" is a Scots and northern English dialect word originally meaning
>> "young pig" (compare the Scandinavian gris, meaning "pig").
>>
>> As it happens, that is just ONE possible explanation. The alternative one,
>> which I hold, and Grice held, is that it's Anglo-Norman, and related to
>> the
>> colour 'grey', or 'gray', if you must. Cfr. Italian 'griso', 'grisatoio',
>> 'grisetta'.
>>
>>
>> *Well, I can see how Grice would have prefered that explanation. It is
>> not very pleasant to be associated with a type of swine, particularly one
>> that is: "voracious in the extreme, and excessively difficult to confine
>> in pasture or to fatten... also destructive and mischievous." And if the
>> talk about causality thoeries and implicatures went too far, neighbours
>> could start "grumbling about the behaviour of ... grice" and the courts
>> might be forced to move "confiscate particularly troublesome pigs, and
>> to impose "hefty fines" on their owners.[5]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grice#cite_note-NewScientist2006-5>" "
>>
>>
>> O.K.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Redacted sender Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx for
>> DMARC <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> In a message dated 3/14/2015 3:10:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx writes:
>>> "Grice" is a Scots and northern English dialect word originally meaning
>>> "young pig" (compare the Scandinavian gris, meaning "pig").
>>>
>>> As it happens, that is just ONE possible explanation. The alternative
>>> one,
>>> which I hold, and Grice held, is that it's Anglo-Norman, and related to
>>> the
>>> colour 'grey', or 'gray', if you must. Cfr. Italian 'griso',
>>> 'grisatoio',
>>> 'grisetta'.
>>>
>>> Now, puns abound. My favourite is Kemmerling's. He speaks of 'gricing'
>>> as a
>>> special type of communication -- that disallows sneaky elements. The
>>> opposite is 'disgricing'. Dennett has
>>>
>>> grice
>>>
>>> as a noun meaning
>>>
>>> Conceptual intricacy.
>>>
>>> "His examination of Hume is distinguished by erudition and grice."
>>>
>>> Hence, griceful, adj. and griceless, adj.
>>>
>>> "An obvious and griceless polemic."
>>>
>>> pl. grouse: A multiplicity of grice, fragmenting into great details,
>>> often
>>> in reply to an original grice note.
>>>
>>> Grice should not be confused with Grice: both are philosophers but
>>> Grice*
>>> taught at Oxford while Grice** taught at UEA/Norwich.
>>>
>>> If you are doing a library (say) search you have to be careful: essays
>>> with
>>> titles like "Grice's contractual approach to morality" may refer to the
>>> UEA/Norwich Grice -- even if H. P. Grice held a quasi-contractual
>>> approach to
>>> the conversational maxims, for example.
>>>
>>> * Herbert Paul; ** Geoffrey Russell.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Speranza
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