[lit-ideas] Re: Griceiana
- From: Paul Stone <pastone@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 16:03:56 -0400
Believe it or not I actually still read all the posts.
On Mar 14, 2015 4:00 PM, "Omar Kusturica" <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well, at least you are there, I was beginning to wonder if JL and I were
> alone here.
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Paul Stone <pastone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> And they are STILL talking about him 15? Years later! I think Grice has
>> overtaken Willy Wagglesword as the most written about author in
>> history...and that's just counting jls' posts!
>>
>> Also contributing nothing
>> On Mar 14, 2015 3:35 PM, "Mike Geary" <jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My favorite play on Grice's name was Paul Stone's : "Jesus Grice!" I
>>> could hear him he crying out. Ah, yes, long live his glory and long may
>>> his story be told.
>>>
>>> My philosophy is quite simple: I don't know. And I probably never will
>>> know, but that's OK, I'm having fun anyway.
>>>
>>> So, even though this message would not qualify for publication here were
>>> there Relevance-Police monitoring this List, the case of the world is
>>> that there are no Relevance-Police monitoring this list and so this message
>>> will be posted to this List even though it makes no contribution to
>>> philosophy or literature. Indeed, were this List the least bit
>>> self-respecting, I would have been banned from posting anything here long
>>> ago. But because it is not so monitored and I have not been so banned,
>>> then I have been able not only to post, but to get a kick out of all the
>>> wild wording this List lets loose like doves from a cage at some
>>> celebration. I salute all you indefatigable word weavers out there.
>>> You've dressed my ignorance in some mighty fine garments, I must say. And
>>> I did say. And you make me jealous that I'm not so refined. My threads are
>>> all a-tangle. I snip them here.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Grice" is a Scots and northern English dialect word originally meaning
>>>> "young pig" (compare the Scandinavian gris, meaning "pig").
>>>>
>>>> As it happens, that is just ONE possible explanation. The alternative
>>>> one,
>>>> which I hold, and Grice held, is that it's Anglo-Norman, and related to
>>>> the
>>>> colour 'grey', or 'gray', if you must. Cfr. Italian 'griso',
>>>> 'grisatoio',
>>>> 'grisetta'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Well, I can see how Grice would have prefered that explanation. It is
>>>> not very pleasant to be associated with a type of swine, particularly one
>>>> that is: "voracious in the extreme, and excessively difficult to
>>>> confine in pasture or to fatten... also destructive and mischievous." And
>>>> if the talk about causality thoeries and implicatures went too far,
>>>> neighbours could start "grumbling about the behaviour of ... grice"
>>>> and the courts might be forced to move "confiscate particularly
>>>> troublesome pigs, and to impose "hefty fines" on their owners.[5]
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grice#cite_note-NewScientist2006-5>" "
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> O.K.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Redacted sender Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
>>>> for DMARC <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 3/14/2015 3:10:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx writes:
>>>>> "Grice" is a Scots and northern English dialect word originally
>>>>> meaning
>>>>> "young pig" (compare the Scandinavian gris, meaning "pig").
>>>>>
>>>>> As it happens, that is just ONE possible explanation. The alternative
>>>>> one,
>>>>> which I hold, and Grice held, is that it's Anglo-Norman, and related
>>>>> to the
>>>>> colour 'grey', or 'gray', if you must. Cfr. Italian 'griso',
>>>>> 'grisatoio',
>>>>> 'grisetta'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, puns abound. My favourite is Kemmerling's. He speaks of 'gricing'
>>>>> as a
>>>>> special type of communication -- that disallows sneaky elements. The
>>>>> opposite is 'disgricing'. Dennett has
>>>>>
>>>>> grice
>>>>>
>>>>> as a noun meaning
>>>>>
>>>>> Conceptual intricacy.
>>>>>
>>>>> "His examination of Hume is distinguished by erudition and grice."
>>>>>
>>>>> Hence, griceful, adj. and griceless, adj.
>>>>>
>>>>> "An obvious and griceless polemic."
>>>>>
>>>>> pl. grouse: A multiplicity of grice, fragmenting into great details,
>>>>> often
>>>>> in reply to an original grice note.
>>>>>
>>>>> Grice should not be confused with Grice: both are philosophers but
>>>>> Grice*
>>>>> taught at Oxford while Grice** taught at UEA/Norwich.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are doing a library (say) search you have to be careful: essays
>>>>> with
>>>>> titles like "Grice's contractual approach to morality" may refer to
>>>>> the
>>>>> UEA/Norwich Grice -- even if H. P. Grice held a quasi-contractual
>>>>> approach to
>>>>> the conversational maxims, for example.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Herbert Paul; ** Geoffrey Russell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Speranza
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>>>>
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