Phil: I understand why the existentialists would want to appropriate K. as one of their own but a close reading shows that K. is no existentialist and is in fact quite hostile to its main tenets. Eric: You are expressing a minority view. Certainly you disagree with writers like William Barrett, whose _Irrational Man_ puts K strictly in existentialist territory. Perhaps you would situate _Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing_ in a devotional tradition with the musings of Tolstoy? Phil: Eric again: "Yet I think the "reason and faith are allies" view hasn't made much headway, unless you count CS Lewis as headway." It has made tremendous headway. What is Christian fundamentalism except perhaps the most rationalistic and modern of faiths? ___ Eric: Fundamentalism is rationalist in the same way a woodpecker is a carpenter. Only by accepting your initial presupposition--that a rationalist system can be based on any particular delusional system--could you even claim that fundamentalism is a form of rationalism. But you appear to desire to do so...in which case you would have to allow Nazism as a form of rationalism. As for "reason and faith" making intellectual headway, I think you confuse headway with head count. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html