Phil: Sure, and we encounter these things all the time. I like chocolate ice cream over vanilla. I don't have a reason for this preference and I can't justify it. But it wouldn't make sense to say that this preference is irrational. I also love my wife. I don't have a reason for this love nor can I justify it. But it wouldn't make sense to say that my love for my wife is irrational. Eric: Both choices are rational. In the case of ice cream, the taste you prefer agrees with your conditioned expectations of ice cream taste. In the case of your wife, she gives you affection, companionship, sex, and bears your children; she supplies you with ego-syntonic affirmation of your personal worth and your self-image. It would be irrational of you not to love her unless she betrayed you. These decisions are quite rational, but your inability to supply ready reasons for your choices does nothing to advance or detract from their rationality. A refusal to examine motives and grounds is just that--a desire not to analyze the grounds of a situation. If one the other hand, you preferred an ice cream flavor that made you vomit, or loved a wife who undercut and humiliated you, that would be irrational. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html