[lit-ideas] Re: Faith

  • From: Brian <cabrian@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:32:04 -0500

On May 16, 2005, at 9:54 AM, Paul Stone wrote:

>> perhaps the most rationalistic and modern of faiths?  As always,  
>> the issue
>> is not whether one is being rational or not but where one starts  
>> from.  And,
>> as Kierkegaard most thoroughly demonstrates, where one starts from  
>> is not
>> itself determined by an act of reason.
>>
>
> This is very interesting although seemingly incompatible. Can there  
> be ANY
> acts but rational (i.e. decisive) ones?

Of course.  That is impetuous or impulsive behavior.

> Apparently, I suppose with faith, any degree
> of rationality MUST be completely ignored.

How so?  Why are they mutually exclusive?

> This explains to me how
> intelligent people (and especially scientific people) can possibly be
> religious.

Yet, is this hypothesis confirmed by religious people themselves?   
Have you heard religious scientists say that rationality must be  
ignored?  I doubt it.  You can't on the one hand say you are trying  
to understand faith and then posit that faith MUST be what you think  
with imperfect data.

> It can, in fact be the ONLY explanation.

Why?  Because it is the only one you can think of or the only one  
that's been offered?  The latter certainly isn't true.

> I'm very interested in this, but every time I try to bring up the
> subject, those of you who ARE religious get offended. I mean no  
> offense, I
> need an explanation.

I'm not offended.  Let's talk.

Brian
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