On May 16, 2005, at 9:54 AM, Paul Stone wrote: >> perhaps the most rationalistic and modern of faiths? As always, >> the issue >> is not whether one is being rational or not but where one starts >> from. And, >> as Kierkegaard most thoroughly demonstrates, where one starts from >> is not >> itself determined by an act of reason. >> > > This is very interesting although seemingly incompatible. Can there > be ANY > acts but rational (i.e. decisive) ones? Of course. That is impetuous or impulsive behavior. > Apparently, I suppose with faith, any degree > of rationality MUST be completely ignored. How so? Why are they mutually exclusive? > This explains to me how > intelligent people (and especially scientific people) can possibly be > religious. Yet, is this hypothesis confirmed by religious people themselves? Have you heard religious scientists say that rationality must be ignored? I doubt it. You can't on the one hand say you are trying to understand faith and then posit that faith MUST be what you think with imperfect data. > It can, in fact be the ONLY explanation. Why? Because it is the only one you can think of or the only one that's been offered? The latter certainly isn't true. > I'm very interested in this, but every time I try to bring up the > subject, those of you who ARE religious get offended. I mean no > offense, I > need an explanation. I'm not offended. Let's talk. Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html