Brian: To which I replied with the Congressional Budget Office numbers showing exactly what I claimed. You responded that they were raw (but not inaccurate) and suggested I read a book. How that would refute the facts is still unclear. You can easily locate both effective tax rates and IRS income stats (http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/ pub/irs-soi/01in01ts.xls) that make a mockery of your claims. Eric: Yes, those are the rates, but what are the taxes paid by the top 1,000 wealthiest people? The top 10,000 wealthiest people? There's a difference between the rate and the taxes actually paid. When I have a moment, I'll see if I can find the actual tax payments. I know Forbes occasionally reports stuff about the top 10,000 wealthiest paying no taxes at all. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html