This exactly illustrates the fiction of the 401k that I was referring to. Investing in the stock market is not only dicey at best, it's expensive because of broker fees. There was the scandal of the mutual funds recently a couple of years ago. Theoretically people get rich on the stock market. In reality they take out what they put in, or less. Andy Amago > [Original Message] > From: Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 5/10/2005 10:41:34 PM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Bush taking apart SS > > Brian: I'm of an age where the SS money I was > forced to pay will not be there when my retirement arrives. I'm > fully capable of planning for my own retirement and do a lot better > than the buffoons who are spending my interest-free loan > profligately. > > Eric: I asked where you were coming from and you have explained that you > were "red baiting." That helps to know. > > I also have two major personal objections to privatizing SS. > > (1) Personal preference: though I have worked on Wall Street, I am not > interested in money management or finance and would prefer not to be > burdened with having to manage my retirement savings. In the rather > short life we are granted, I would prefer to devote more time to > pursuing learning and things I love, rather than be forced to play stock > picker and fund analyst. Freedom from having to think about money > management would be worth more than any small incremental advantage that > might result from managing a retirement account. > > (2) Personal experience: I had a 403(b) plan invested active at a firm > for years during 1994-2003. When it was rollover time, I had a net loss > of almost $10k over the amount invested by the company. > > In other words, for that period of time, if I had simply put the 403(b) > money in an escrow account without interest, I would have made almost > $10k more than I ended with in the balanced, conservative, respected > fund managing the 403(b) account. If it were a 2 percent government > account, I would have made much more than $10k over what the funds accrued. > > In short, I don't like to be forced into money management, and it didn't > work for me in the past. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html