The Noumenon's Sojourn In a message dated 9/9/2014 2:26:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Palma@xxxxxxxxxx writes: When the subject knows that p is noumena, assuming knowledge entails true content, what are the truth conditions of "p is noumena"? Part of the problem is Greek. The Greeks were slightly confused about the word 'nous'. On top of that, their grammar was even more complex than Italian grammar: the passive voice got incorporated in the noun. So, from 'nous', we have 'noumenon', which is a PASSIVE conception. What is being THOUGHT. Of course Kant, who should have known better, opposed it to the PHAINOMENON. But there are differences, because 'what is appeared', or 'what appears', follows a different logical grammar, since the verb from which 'phainomenon' derives bears a passive form but an 'active' meaning, as it were. Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html