[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB url problems
- From: Leona Holloway <Leona.Holloway@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 09:30:59 +1000
Hi,
The other issue which may come up particularly in URLs is that the numeric
indicator initiates grade 1 mode. If a number occurs within a URL, the
remainder of the text needs to be translated in grade 1.
With regards to the issue with back-translating ://
The forward slash (dots 456-34) should be totally unambiguous.
The colon (dots 25) must be interpreted according to context. Dots 25 represent:
- "con" only if it appears at the beginning of a sequence and is followed by a
letter;
- "cc" only if it is both preceded and followed by a letter;
- colon or ratio in all other grade 2 contexts.
There are also other meanings in arrow mode and line mode.
Kind regards,
Leona
-----Original Message-----
From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, 6 August 2013 4:09 PM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB url problems
Hi,
Let's what's going on...
In case of a dot between letters: that's the back translation backend that we
should worry about. As for forward translation, I'll submit the updated tables
this week.
Cheers,
Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Perry <kperry@xxxxxxx
To: "liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 03:42:04 +0000
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB url problems
Well then tUEB tables need some fixing. If no one else has time I will look at
it after I finish some other things I am working on.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Leona Holloway
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 7:11 PM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB url problems
Hi,
Joseph is correct: URLs are treated as normal text in UEB.
Computer braille indicators are not required and grade 2 braille can be used,
although contractions should not bridge two words.
Leona
-----Original Message-----
From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013 4:55 PM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB url problems
Hi Ken,
I believe you don't need computer braille indicators in UEB (Leona, can you
clarify this?).
As for the "odd" hex symbols: the 0x03B range are Greek characters.
What might be happening is that the user types URL's in computer braille, but
then when LibLouis back-translates this, it'll find that .a and .o are Greek
symbols from UeB grade 1, hence will give you that result.
I might have to look at exact rules on URL's - when I find it, I'll try my best
(with help and feedback from others) to come up with a solution (at least from
table design perspective).
Cheers,
Joseph
On 8/1/13, Ken Perry <kperry@xxxxxxx> wrote:
This is a separate problem from the en-us- problems I am writing about in the
other mail. I also tested backtranslation of URLs in UEB.
First it seems to me you should not have to mark urls in UEB to not be back
translated right? Even if you have to there is a weird bug that I can't find
with UEB g1 and g2. Here is what I get when I translate one URL:
Starting URL:
http://www.aph.org
translation
_+http://.aph.org_:
Back translation
http://www\x03b1ph\x03bfrg<http://www/x03b1ph/x03bfrg
First do we need the _+ and _: in UEB and second what the heck is going on
with the\x03b I can't find that Unicode anywhere in all the includes for
en-uebg1 or en-uebg2.
Ken
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