[LRflex] Re: Future R system
- From: Robert Lilley <speyerdom@xxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 08:29:41 -0400
Hi Axel,
I like your Ardennes compositions. You are lucky to own the Angenieux zoom and
it is a nice range. A word of caution, Angenieux lenses tend to have soft
coatings and are prone to picking up cleaning marks, etc. This is my
experience of a thousand years ago when I shot Exakta with Angenieux
retro-focus wide angles.
Yes it is "f8 and be there" and at 62 I can manage to get my body there but its
getting hard to manage all the gear too. This year when I was shooting up in
Maine, I wanted to get a close up shot of the lighthouse at Mulholland Point
in the Bay of Fundy but alas, I don't own a telephoto for my 4x5 inch view
camera - so I wasn't 'there' for that shot.
Axelred! - hmmm, brings to mind a Triumph TR3 I called "Ethelred The
Radiator-less" There you go, Lucas electrics - talk about analog!
Rob
On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:44 AM, Axel Collier wrote:
> Hi Rob
> Thank you for your interesting comments. It is interesting to see that you
> are strugling with the same problem.
> Your experience seems to lead to what Dave said earlier : "f8 and be there".
> That is why I still consider investing more in the Rsystem. It may be dead,
> but still plenty of cameras and lenses around on the bay ...
> My father gave me a R3 with 70-210mm Angenieux a year agon and i find this
> fantastic tools. I had to replace the light sealing, but the camera is good
> enough for me. I adapted the Angenieux with a Leitax and bought a D300. I am
> very happy with this combination. But I also like film. Film is nice. It is
> not better or worse , it is different.
> Maybee i will get me a 50mm to go with my R3, or maybee i get the R8 ? Or
> maybee i will get a M6 ...
> Or maybee i will get some lessons and learn more before i buy more stuff ...
> You can see what i do here : http://www.flickr.com/photos/44847726@N08/
> As you can see, i am learning every day.
> All comments are welcom.
> greetings, Axel.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Lilley" <speyerdom@xxxxxxx>
> To: <leicaReflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 4:05 PM
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Future R system
>
>
>> Alex,
>> I have been caught up in the Medium Format/Large Format debate as well. I
>> own several MF and LF cameras. I have lugged all this equipment about in
>> the field. Its not only about cameras and lenses, its also about getting
>> a large camera and it's film to the scene and keeping it motionless when
>> you get there. I have invested quite a bit of money in tripods, heads,
>> backpacks and other ancillary equipment to do this. Every time I am in
>> the field I am reminded of this 1950's film about a bunch of peasants who
>> drag this huge canon over hill and dale to attack a fort. I have
>> invested in a large darkroom that can handle up to 5x7" without a problem.
>> But...
>>
>> I am starting to wonder if it is really worth it after seeing the pictures
>> taken with R cameras by this group. I have come to the conclusion that
>> its not about negative size. It is all about the quality of the lens and
>> tripping the shutter at the right place and time. I have only a R4 and a
>> Summicron 2.8 50mm at this point. This combination takes wonderful
>> pictures. I am seriously thinking about selling all my LF and MF kit and
>> buying a complete Leica R system.
>>
>> Question is, what do I buy? Hmmm...
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [LRflex] Leica or MF
>> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:48:58 +0200
>>
>> The other day I had this discussion with a friend. He claimed that all the
>> debate about the different brands (Nikon/Canon/Leica ...) were about
>> details, that you can only improve image quality really by upgrading to
>> Medium Format (i know, and by getting a better photographer ;-) ) . What
>> do you guys think about that ?
>> Would it still be worthwhile to invest in MF since prices have dropped so
>> dramatically ? An old RB or even Rollei 6000 can be had on bay for a
>> fraction of what they used to cost. I have lately been playing more with
>> film again, so i was wondering if i would invest a little in another lens
>> for my R3, or even a M6 or would invest in MF. I know, these are wild
>> thoughts, hope you can forgive me for that ;-)
>> greetings, Axel
>>
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