[LRflex] Re: Future R system
- From: Robert Lilley <speyerdom@xxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:50:38 -0400
Dr. Ted, I'm an amateur landscape kinda guy. I managed printing and graphics
most of my life and was of the generation that brought digital to graphics,
etc. I have stayed analog in photography perhaps because it wasn't like work -
sitting at a desk behind a computer and there is nothing like a real silver
print. Why is it that every camera shop I talk to tries to convert me over to
digital? Today I talked to a Leica dealer in New Jersey about R cameras and
lenses. Wanted to see if they had any lenses in stock, etc. I was asked why I
wanted to "mess with all that old stuff for". -=sigh=-
Rob
On Aug 6, 2010, at 12:33 PM, tedgrant@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Robert Lilley asked:
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Future R system
>
>
>> Alex,
>> I have been caught up in the Medium Format/Large Format debate as well. I
>> own several MF and LF cameras. I have lugged all this equipment about in
>> the field. Its not only about cameras and lenses, its also about getting
>> a large camera and it's film to the scene and keeping it motionless when
>> you get there. I have invested quite a bit of money in tripods, heads,
>> backpacks and other ancillary equipment to do this. Every time I am in
>> the field I am reminded of this 1950's film about a bunch of peasants who
>> drag this huge canon over hill and dale to attack a fort. I have
>> invested in a large darkroom that can handle up to 5x7" without a problem.
>> But...
>>
>> I am starting to wonder if it is really worth it after seeing the pictures
>> taken with R cameras by this group. I have come to the conclusion that
>> its not about negative size. It is all about the quality of the lens and
>> tripping the shutter at the right place and time. I have only a R4 and a
>> Summicron 2.8 50mm at this point. This combination takes wonderful
>> pictures. I am seriously thinking about selling all my LF and MF kit and
>> buying a complete Leica R system.
>>
>> Question is, what do I buy? Hmmm...
>
> Hi Rob,
> Simple answer...with a question? "WHAT DO YOU SHOOT?"
>
> If it's sports it's long glass from 280mm and longer, a 15mm just in case,
> the 80-200 zoom, just in case, the Noctilux... just in case? And the list
> goes on.
>
> However it still comes down to one question......... "what do you shoot and
> what do you like to shoot?"
> Answer these, then we can go from there.
>
> I've been an R and M user since they came out, other than the first SLR I
> never bothered with... no loss! My usual body count was always 3 motor
> driven bodies always... Sl, SL2, R4, R7, R8 being the last. I've switched to
> CANON digi camera bodies and lens adapters. Those who complain about lack of
> auto-focus, read my lips.... "GET OVER IT!" If you are a LEICA user it's
> always been manual!
>
> And the stopped down metering, another no big deal, get over it and start
> shooting. In many cases I've nearly always shot with the widest possible
> aperture and fastest shutter speed. WHY? Well it helps clear the crap out of
> backgrounds and helps with the possibility of camera shake by using high
> shutter speeds.
>
> Yep I know others cringe at this description but, yes I do shoot stopped
> down when the photo situation calls for it. Other wise it's wide open or a
> stop or two down. Exposures were always just ducky! :-)
>
> As a photojournalist and a non-techie type I just bought Leica glass in
> relation to the type of photography I was shooting, documentary, magazines
> and commercial assignments. And because the LEICA GLASS is the best damn
> image cutting glass on the market. Oh I know I'll get arguments, not worth
> my time to listen to nor reading! Simply because my comments about LEICA
> stuff, good, bad or ugly. Are given after being a professional
> photojournalist with 60 years experience and still shooting! Not the
> manual reading opinions of techie types.
>
> My Canon digital camera with the 280mm 2.8 shooting baseball and other
> sports produces wonderful images that look smashing at print sizes usually
> made filling 13X19 size Epson paper.
>
> So mon mi, answer the question.... "what do you or are you shooting" then
> maybe an answer of glass can be offered.
>
> For all those hand wringing crying about not having a digital R body, "GET
> OVER IT AND MOVE ON!" Before most of us ever see one from Leica other than
> the $25,000 or whatever price the S line cost, we'll all be in camera
> heaven. :-)
>
> cheers,
> Dr. ted
>
> tedgrantphoto.com ............ have a look at some samples and all LEICA.
>
>
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