>As most people on this list know, I am not the biggest fan of HOPE....but I >listen to it often in my "man cave" and I appreciate it for what it is >(madman, notwithstanding...LOL)...it is just not my cup of tea! On the other >hand...I have to agree with Dave on this and he has done his usual >gentle loving way of showing it. Except for ES....KLAATU IS KLAATU!!!! Agreed on Madman, never a fan of that song, but the rest of the album HELL YES! As for ES, though it usually gets roasted by most fans I have learned to appreciate it more and more as time goes on. As I learned more and more of it's "wonderful" backround of how it came to be (ie Recording in California and the Studio musician overkill) I just shake my head, but I still listen to it. But then again I am getting knee deep in this conversation aren't I? (can here the groans from where I sit) Alex and Hope (the German Shepherd)