Okay, I sniffed around more deeply. Found this study (which, admittedly, is somewhat informal): cite: http://www.minneapolisfed.org/publications_papers/pub_display.cfm?id=3033 To summarize their findings, it appears a Wal-Mart has either very little or imperceptible effect on the economy of a region. Which I found fascinating. Does that mean they are a BAD neighbor, blasting away at Mom & Pop shops? Nnnnno, not necessarily, and I was wrong about that. Does that mean they are a GOOD neighbor, raining down wonderful jobs and traffic to a desperate economy? Nnnnno, not necessarily, and that is an incorrect characterization as well. Net effect, based on the criteria and findings in this doc, are actually pretty interesting, and I find myself agreeing with their conclusion, based on the evidence offered. Now, THAT said... Economy's a tricky subject... Regarding Mom & Pop stores: I think if you're going to toss out a shingle and call yourself a store, you must pay attention to what your competitors are doing. Me, or David, or Jaimie, or Joe Bob Briggs can pretty much shop ANYWHERE now, so if you want to sell me the latest cut of 3:47 EST, then you MUST recognize that I can order it for x+shipping on Amazon.com. If you price over that market, you can't bitch about losing sales to Amazon.com without looking petulant (I've had this lesson driven home to me very forcefully, recently, I'm embarrassed to admit). As Marc pointed out, people shop for a VARIETY of reasons. For example, I like to have a pleasant chatty relationship with the guy running my local record store, and that's part of my transactional value. If that guy turns into a jerk, then I lose that value by shopping there, and I'll likely go somewhere else. I also like shopping locally when the proprietor shows me that they have a good set of brains about the product. A shopkeeper telling me how the audio mastering of 3:47 EST is tremendously better than Peaks is more likely to earn my loyalty -- which has value to me. A Mom & Pop store that ignores all those OTHER reasons for choosing them, well, maybe they DESERVE to die out, y'know...? Wal-Mart employees offer absolutely no value to me in this respect. When I shop there, I already know what I want, and I'd be stupid to ask for advice or help. Regarding zoning: A lot of local businesses (not all, but I've seen it enough in person to describe it functionally as "a lot") act a bit like "big frogs in little ponds." That, combined with the (apparently unsupported) notion that Wal-Mart drives out little businesses, naturally suggests that people who own such businesses are going to be a little... defensive about it. As such, it makes sense that they'll try to use existing laws and legal structures to block Wal-Mart. Whether it's "right" or "wrong" is academic -- it's the tool to which they have access, therefore it's the tool they'll use. In the examples above, that tool happened to manifest as "well, you can't build it here because there's no infrastructure." This is bad planning, however, and reflective of not understanding how one's competitor works. While a 30 million dollar price tag for infrastructure development would cripple a local business, to Wal-Mart, it's simply one of the many prices of doing business. As a callback to my example, if someone triumphantly told me I couldn't set up my home business unless I paid the $12 Home Business Tax, I would simply pay it. No big deal to me. Regarding undercutting suppliers: Yep, in order to keep prices low, Wal-Mart must purchase even lower than a typical retailer. The thing they can offer suppliers is Serious Market Penetration. Hard to beat that deal -- assuming you (as the supplier) are okay with the margins. For example, if Wal-Mart wanted to pick up one of our products, I'd be happy with a MUCH smaller margin, because I know I'd move a MILLION units, instead of a few hundred. Some suppliers are okay with that and some aren't -- and that's fine. Hm. This has been some neat brain-grist, all based on a goofy freak-out list initially posted. Learned quite a few things I didn't learn before! Thanks! Cheers, Edward (who mostly just listens in on the conversation and has for a few years, but just seemingly got bit by the Chatty Kathy bug this morning)