In reply to the most recent posts; Thank you very much Mitch and Jamie and Dave and Dean and everyone else for your recent posts which I have been reading with great interest. It is really a treat, a privilege and extremely good value for money reading your thoughts. :-) As an example of what I think was really lost in the 80'es and onwards was music like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9n981iQz3w&feature=related To be replaced by electronica, hip-hop, what we term "Euro-trash" in this part of the world, and of course, punk, new wave and by what other names it went by: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc2ZIQ-xp7o&feature=related But then again, we also had this in the 80'es, and it still gives me goose bumps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vUDmFjWgVo I quite enjoyed songs like London Calling and Eaton Rifles in their day, and bands like The Clash, The Jam, Siouxsie And The Banshees, and much of the output of Blondie, Pretenders and especially Talk Talk. The latter of course led to Mark Hollis going off and making increasingly "strange", unconventional albums and interesting music. Interestingly, the best acts seem to have good material, i.e. songs that are quite capable of standing out with a minimum of gimmicks, like the Isle of View album by The Pretenders, or the Ice Queen of punk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98zdMnxl5sc I'm trying to think if there are other markers than period and style, eg. 60'es, 70'es, 80'es, R'n'B - R&R - Prog - Punk - Pop, production values, guitar oriented versus synth or electronica, but I find that transgressing decades and instrumentation, perhaps a concept of artistic ambition or progression would also be relevant to quote. Whether it be in terms of song construction or in terms of connecting with the listener on cognitive and emotional levels; appealing to a mathematical brain and / or the limbic system. Dire Straits, from the example above started out with "Sultans of Swing" and their work (or should I say Knopfler's work) evolved. Beatles evolved from the early days. Punk bands / New Wave evolved. A good song is a good song is a good song :-) Then there is something totally different, like this which makes me almost physically ill. I should probably have to pop some week-end pills and rave at 3 a.m. in order to be able to get into this. See if you can name the sample used, - without looking through the comments first! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRycHiIEDLA Cheers Jens -----Original Message/s----- From: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [klaatumail] Re: 1980s music [almost no kk]