I hear ya. I don't hate or even dislike the sounds. In fact, I like the NEW synth and sample models for the reasons Dave Bradley dislikes them. I prefer the sampled sound of a real instrument rather than the sound of an instrument being imitated (which is what Moogs and mellotrons attempted to do). Just my own preference. Jaimie Vernon, President, Bullseye Records 1-800-JOE-RADI(O) // 1-800-563-7234 CDs: http://www.bullseyecanada.com MP3s: http://www.bullseyesongs.com RADIO: http://www.radiothatdoesntsuck.com SWAG: http://www.cafepress.com/bullseyecanada TWITTER: http://www.twitter.com/bullseyecanada MYSPACE: http://www.myspace.com/bullseyecanada Author, Canadian Pop Music Encyclopedia http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Pop_Encyclopedia/ PERSONAL - http://www.myspace.com/jaimievernonsmovingtargetz - http://radio3.cbc.ca/bands/Jaimie-Vernon BLOG - http://verminator.livejournal.com FACEBOOK - http://www.facebook.com/jaimievernon > From: deanjasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [klaatumail] Re: New Dee Long solo rarities > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:16:02 -0700 > > Jaimie, maybe all I'm trying to say is that at that point in time (60s-70s) > the music being written was more true to classical and jazz roots formed > into rock. It just so happened to be the time when synthesizers were trying > to mimmick brass and wind instruments. Personally I love those old keyboard > tones but they may not be for everyone. Creative chord structure is the key > no matter how "dated" it sounds. Klaatu certainly had that! > Dean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jaimie Vernon" <bullseyecanada@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:44 AM > Subject: [klaatumail] Re: New Dee Long solo rarities > > > > Wow...how absolutely judgmental. > > > > The '60s and '70s were great, admittedly. But to say it's the be all and > > end all? Sorry, man....most of my musical creativity came IN the '80s when > > I was part of the '80s musical movement as an artist. Give me a DX7 or a > > JUNO 108 or an EMU and leave those farting old farfisas and moogs where > > they belong....in the pawn shops....collecting dust. > > > > Personally, I'd rather listen to ANYTHING from post-WWII 1940s to early > > '50s. Pop music especially. It's honest, it's earnest and it had NO > > artistic agenda. It was there to feed the feet and the hearts of the > > people. > > > > Jaimie Vernon, > > President, Bullseye Records > > 1-800-JOE-RADI(O) // 1-800-563-7234 > > CDs: http://www.bullseyecanada.com > > MP3s: http://www.bullseyesongs.com > > RADIO: http://www.radiothatdoesntsuck.com > > SWAG: http://www.cafepress.com/bullseyecanada > > TWITTER: http://www.twitter.com/bullseyecanada > > MYSPACE: http://www.myspace.com/bullseyecanada > > > > Author, Canadian Pop Music Encyclopedia > > http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Pop_Encyclopedia/ > > > > PERSONAL - http://www.myspace.com/jaimievernonsmovingtargetz > > - http://radio3.cbc.ca/bands/Jaimie-Vernon > > BLOG - http://verminator.livejournal.com > > FACEBOOK - http://www.facebook.com/jaimievernon > > > > > > > > > >> From: deanjasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [klaatumail] Re: New Dee Long solo rarities > >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:28:41 -0700 > >> > >> I"m not a fan of the word "dated". Most of the best music came out of the > >> 60s and 70s. Everyone knows that, even the young people. I'd give > >> anything > >> to own a Moog or a mellotron today! I'd use them both in all of my stuff. > >> What real musician wouldn't? > >> Great topic guys....Dean > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Scott Teague" <Scott.Teague@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:56 AM > >> Subject: [klaatumail] Re: New Dee Long solo rarities > >> > >> > >> > See, > >> > This is why one should NEVER try to give any explanation, however > >> > brief, > >> > as to WHY it is that a particular piece of music (...artist, genre, > >> > etc.) > >> > doesn't particularly appeal to oneself. You end up with people > >> > suggesting > >> > you shouldn't feel that way, how you're not being fair to the artist, > >> > or > >> > your mind is just too damn small and closed, or some such thing. > >> > > >> > I agree with Dwayne who said, " Stuff like the Beatles and Klaatu > >> > doesn't > >> > date in my opinion. It's timeless. > >> > And that is the sign of a great band." > >> > > >> > Excuse me while I go back to listening to my Lightnin' Hopkins, BB > >> > King, > >> > SRV, Robin Trower, Rob Thomas, Blitzen Trapper, Sarah Watkins, Allman > >> > brothers, etc. Actually, I need to get to work. > >> > > >> > . . ... Scott Teague . . ¶|;-D > >> > > >> > scott.teague@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > Production Test Technician > >> > Cell: (508) 272-8957 > >> > otherwise: 508-618-0301 > >> > > >> > IneoQuest Technologies, Inc. > >> > 170 Forbes Blvd. > >> > Mansfield, MA 02048-1149 > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > >> > Behalf > >> > Of Jaimie Vernon > >> > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:19 PM > >> > To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > Subject: [klaatumail] Re: New Dee Long solo rarities > >> > > >> > At Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:55:45 Jens wrote: > >> >> Looking at it objectively, or at least trying to; the term "dated", is > >> >> used > >> >> like a curse word, along with Prog, Rush etc. in your examples. > >> > > >> > You are correct. Because the people making the statements used 'dated' > >> > as > >> > a derogatory term. > >> > > >> >>There is really no objective validity or argument in the statements. > >> > > >> > *I* was making an argument for objectivity, but the people putting the > >> > music down were NOT. This thread began when someone here said that > >> > McManus had a 'dated' sound. I took that as a negative attitude....and > >> > made mention that if THAT was the case, they wouldn't like Dee's demos > >> > for the same reason. > >> > > >> >> I might counter by calling everything released within the last year > >> >> "contemporary" - and add a sneer to my voice :-) > >> > > >> > Yes. As would a lot of people. > >> > > >> >> Or anything released in the last decade soooooo early 21st century. > >> > > >> > Indeed. > >> > > >> >> These statements aren't objective or valid either. > >> >> > >> >> Newest isn't always best, although Hollywood tends to think so as > >> >> they're > >> >> remaking old films galore instead of coming up with original ideas, > >> >> and > >> >> of > >> >> course any piece of creative work will in some way or other contain > >> >> some > >> >> references to the time period in which it was created. > >> >> > >> >> Would these persons you're referring to, diss a painting merely on the > >> >> grounds that is dated and so either impressionism, cubism, or Dadaism? > >> > > >> > Yes. People do this all the time. And just because someone isn't being > >> > objective, doesn't make their taste any less valid. HOW you like music > >> > is > >> > as unique as music itself. > >> > > >> > And this is MY point in all these posts. You'd be surprised at how many > >> > people do not judge music as art....only by the SOUND it makes. If it > >> > is > >> > not cutting edge and made in the last year, it is of no interest to > >> > some > >> > people. You'd be surprised to find out that singer-songwriter Neil > >> > Young > >> > is one of them. Until he assembled his recent boxed set full of > >> > rarities, > >> > outtakes, etc., at the request of his fans, he'd NEVER gone back to > >> > listen > >> > to any of it because his policy is: record it, release it, move on.... > >> > > >> > Klaatu fans come in two camps....those who wish EVERYTHING sounded like > >> > the past (Beatles, ELO, Klaatu, et al)....and those who have a wider > >> > palette and believe that music of all types -- new or old -- has a > >> > place > >> > in the world. > >> > > >> > And, unfortunately, you're never going to change that. > >> > > >> > Jaimie > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Attention all humans. We are your photos. Free us. > >> > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid-66047 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > More storage. Better anti-spam and antivirus protection. 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