[jhb] Re: Mesh Problems

  • From: Gerry Winskill <gwinsk@xxxxxxx>
  • To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 08:42:42 +0100

It all looks a bit deep for jumping into. The SP1 might make it unneccessary; well that's my excuse.....


Gerry Winskill


bones wrote:

I don't know what went wrong there but the thread showing up wasn't the one
I was looking at. There is a more descriptive post on FSXKML if you need it.

bones

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Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 05 May 2007 19:21
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Mesh Problems


He really never learns, does he?

It's like poking your head over a wall, saying "here I am, don't shoot
me. I've moved, here I am, don't shoot me".
He must be a masochist!

Gerry Winskill


bones wrote:

See http://www.visualflight.co.uk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6432 for
some comments on FSX flattens.

bones

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From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 05 May 2007 16:37
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Mesh Problems


I've a feeling the limitation you mention applies to the current system
of creating flattens.

Autogen has a slider in FSX. I run mine, currently, at Sparse. It's
also possible to include a line in the FSX.cfg that sets the proportion
of trees to buildings that any AG slider setting produces.

The current feeling seems to be that AG buildings, in the GenX area,
are less needed because of the much enhanced appearance of the
photoscenery buildings.

Gerry Winskill

bones wrote:



I've created a flatten for an FSX airfield and it seemed to work - but
I suspect only in one direction. It's a guess but I suspect a flatten
will lower any mesh above flatten height down to this height but it
may not raise mesh lower than flatten height upwards. I was using the
conventional syntax
of:

Flatten.0=325.0,N51 01.26,W1 49.50,N51 01.26,W1 48.50,N51 00.75,W1
48.50,N51 00.75,W1 49.50

Can you exclude autogen in FSX?

bones

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From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 05 May 2007 15:04
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Mesh Problems


I tried that but it had no effect.
Having done a Yahoo for FSX Flatten, the various discussions unearthed
seem to conclude it's only possible using a couple of non MS design
programmes. I've a feeling this is how George Davidson has come up
with the flattens that he's created. Even then it seems they often
don't work across the whole area they've been designed for. It seems
to be regarded as something that may be covered by SP1. That's as well
as a solution to global warming, third world debt and an effective
English cricket team. Lates Blogs say it won't be out. as promised, in
April. Maybe May......2008?

Gerry Winskill

bones wrote:





Have you tried a Flatten line in the scenery.cfg file as could be
done in FS9?

bones

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 05 May 2007 09:46
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Mesh Problems


Having trawled through an initial batch of twenty UK2000 fields, in
FSX, I was left with nine that were flyable. They have texture
breakthrough and missing bits but no significant troughs. This is a
known UK2000 problem.

Anyway, having looked at Carlisle, I decided to take a flight to East
Fortune. Although the runways were OK some of the buildings were down
in valleys and hollows that definitely can't be present in real life.

Because of its effect on some farm strip runways, I've stopped using
the more accurate GenX mesh and reverted to the VFR Terrain mesh
which, I think, extends north of the border.

Changing the Options Settings sliders for Mesh had no effect on the
hollows at East Fortune. If I disable VFR Terrain and revert to the
Default mesh, then the hollows disappear.

The reason why, with VFR Terrain used in FS9 I don't get these
hollows is, presumably because of the Scotflight inbuilt Flattens.
It's a known fact that FS9 flattens have no effect in FSX. So, it
looks as though I'll need to head for FSX SDK and read up on
Flattens.

BUT, since the hollows aren't present across real life farm strip
runways, or around any licensed commercial airfield I've ever seen,
the finger seems to point at the Mesh addons. The "more accurate"
GenX mesh creates more depressions than does VFR Terrain, which is
obviously "more accurate" than the Default mesh. It looks as though
"accuracy" is a merited claim in the direction of UP, whereas they
create non existant holes, when looking DOWN.

Any ideas folks?

Gerry Winskill



























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