[jhb] Re: Flights
- From: "Fossil" <fossil@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:00:52 +0100
I totally agree and IATA are now jumping in with a comment that is likely to
see some action for compensation.
IATA chief Giovanni Bisignani said: "The decision that Europe has made is
with no risk assessment, no consultation, no co-ordination, no leadership."
And he's perfectly right.
In reality flights have continued to operate but at about 1% of normal
levels and mostly business or GA. Manx 2 never stopped their operations
totally (except yesterday) and I've seen Aer Arann, Aer Lingus and Ryanair
flights in the last three days. I watched the BA 747 leave London and it
flew right out to the Irish FIR boundary at 15W (MILKI) before coming back
to land at Cardiff. Contamination was reported to be insignificant.
Right now I see a King Air, Dornier 228, Sikorsky S76 and a Blue Panorama
B737 on screen. Earlier a FlyBe Dash 8 was flying and an Atlantique ATP plus
a few bizjets.
It's a pity I can't hook you up with ADSViewer - we are currently testing a
new version - as you could have seen that a lot of aircraft have still been
flying. Even Gatwick had fun when the 21 ship formation from the Tiger Club
flew over the airfield. There's some excellent picture online somewhere.
bones
bones@xxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Paul Reynolds
Sent: 19 April 2010 18:46
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Flights
Looks like sanity may eventually being applied and flights resuming
tomorrow. Humberside is due to re-open at mid-day with the first in-bound
due around 1pm followed by departure at 2pm.
Great quote from Bryan Hoxford of Eastern Airways "There was a massive
over-reaction, no-one asked the air operators who have far more experience
of these matters than half-a-dozen meteorologists halfway up a mountain with
a rain gauge".
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 19 April 2010 16:49
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Flights
Just been in the back garden, starting to re furbish the familly cot,
when I heard the sound of engines. Quite high up and heading down the
coast towards the IOM, was an SKA. Any gen on this one? It was overhead
the North about 1636.
Gerry Winskill
Fossil wrote:
> Despite the ban on aircraft in the UK some operators have obviously
> decided that NATS was over cautious in their decision.
>
> I've seen several flights in and out of Dublin today, Manx2 are running
> their little LET on Blackpool and Belfast flights and TCX7l and TOM663
> have just flown into Manchester.
>
> Oddly enough TOM663 was from Barbados but it appeared over Tiree and
> routing to Islay. That's pretty well parallel to the ash cloud which is
> flowing from Iceland to Sumburgh and maybe just 150nm south. If they are
> letting aircraft get that close to the plume (which I guess they can
> clearly see) then why is all traffic in the south of the UK blocked?
> It's weird.
>
> TCX7L also appeared on screen about Londonderry so that was another
> Caribbean flight that went well north. It puzzles me.
>
> bones
>
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