[jhb] Re: Flights

  • From: "Frank Fisher" <ffisher991@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:53:29 +0100

I know it is due to fuel burn costs etc, but why cannot flights take a low path until clear of the cloud, just to get things moving.

It would stop some airlines going under from loss of revenue etc.
Frank

----- Original Message ----- From: "Fossil" <fossil@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: [jhb] Re: Flights


The Glasgow aircraft diverted to Manchester.

So far I've seen the TOM and TCX go into Manchester and a couple depart -
again for the sunny islands. Aer Lingus are firing aircraft out of Dublin
and Aer Arann seem to be operating too - seen three so far.

Normally I would have recorded about 600 aircraft by this time of day and
you would think the records would be near zero - but I've logged 91 aircraft so far. Most are GA but there have been a few bizjets and the Irish Air Corp
PC9's are quite active. As I write an Antonov An124 has also appeared..

bones
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-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 16 April 2010 14:02
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Flights

Just had a call from my son, in NY. He should have left last night but
it was cancelled. He's got himself onto a non scheduled BA flight, that
might leave this evening, heading for Prestwick. He thinks they are
trying to get the aircraft, plus BA personnel, back to the UK. A check
on Prestwick shows they have no flights at the moment, though Glasgow
have had the arrival from the Carbean, plus a couple of other long
hauls. That being the case it's hard to see that they can't operate the
Glasgow IOM route. Manx2 say they can operate to Leeds by staying below
8000 ft and that should be OK for Glasgow to IOM, I would have thought.

Gerry Winskill

Fossil wrote:
Despite the ban on aircraft in the UK some operators have obviously
decided that NATS was over cautious in their decision.

I've seen several flights in and out of Dublin today, Manx2 are running
their little LET on Blackpool and Belfast flights and TCX7l and TOM663
have just flown into Manchester.

Oddly enough TOM663 was from Barbados but it appeared over Tiree and
routing to Islay. That's pretty well parallel to the ash cloud which is
flowing from Iceland to Sumburgh and maybe just 150nm south. If they are
letting aircraft get that close to the plume (which I guess they can
clearly see) then why is all traffic in the south of the UK blocked?
It's weird.

TCX7L also appeared on screen about Londonderry so that was another
Caribbean flight that went well north. It puzzles me.

bones

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