[jhb] Re: EGNS
- From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:12:25 +0100
No - anyone with a Student rating can log into any Ground position and start
controlling. This guy only had three hours online and obviously assumed that
all aircraft on the ground had to call him. Normally they would - but if
another controller is already working the traffic you arrange a proper
handover. Dipstick.
Having left EGNS he promptly logged in at EGCC so it could have been the
same person. <g>
bones
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 16 September 2007 22:28
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: EGNS
I'd assumed you all had to be authorised to man certain positions. It's
not very satisfying if just anyone can muscle in on your territory.
I'd quite looked forward to having to get clearance to leave Lymm, for
entry to the Low Level Corridor, earlier, but the EGCC Controller left
just as I started my engine. I've often had that effect on people!
BTW, has anyone else arrived at Lleweni Parc yet?
Gerry Winskill
bones wrote:
>Ah...
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>The mentor was training a student on Tower earlier because he thought
>we might see some traffic. We did too - but four aircraft couldn't get
>in contact with Tower and came over to me anyway. That started a
>frantic five minutes of text messages. In the end one aircraft left
>because he had jammed brakes and couldn't move. A second couldn't talk
>to anyone on voice and although I was happy with text the Tower trainee
>wasn't - so that was two down. The third refused to go back to tower
>after several attempts and stayed on my frequency and the fourth
>finally got Tower as he was pulling onto the stand. I don't think it
>was a very successful session for him.
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>Not long after he left another bunch turned up and that drew in a
>controller on Tower - a newbie who then tried to commandeer all the
>aircraft on my frequency. A couple of irate messages and a threat of a
>ban saw him shift to Manchester but he was replaced by a Dublin guy on
>TWR who turned out to be quite helpful. He knew his stuff as he was
>able to slot a VFR circuit aircraft into a pattern busy with two doing
>IFR circuits to the ILS - not the easiest of tasks. Mike was one and I
>hope he enjoyed it.
>
>bones
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
>Sent: 16 September 2007 21:41
>To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [jhb] Re: EGNS
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>'Twasn't traffic I meant. Three controllers; there's posh!
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>Pleased about the traffic though.
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>Gerry Winskill
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>bones wrote:
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>>No story. If you sit here long enough you get the traffic.. I think
>>I've had about 15 so far.
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>>bones
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
>>Sent: 16 September 2007 21:32
>>To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [jhb] EGNS
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>>Looking in at Servinfo, when able to make sporadic escapes, I see you
>>are mob handed tonight. What's the story behind the event?
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>>Gerry Winskill
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