RE: find command with IE
- From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:37:11 -0800
Hi, the virtual cursor does not follow any cursor at all. The fact is =
that
the virtual cursor reads what is in the virtual buffer. When you move =
the
virtual cursor over a link form field etc the browser is put in to focus =
on
said element of the page. =20
Hth=20
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:27 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: find command with IE
Sorry, I didn't mean the Jaws cursor. I meant the regular cursor. The=20
virtual cursor. Sorry. I heard "Jaws" as meaning "the cursor we use =
when=20
Jaws is turned on." Sorry. My bad, as they say.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: find command with IE
Hi, no the jaws cursor follows the mouse pointer where your jaws cursor =
=3D is
is on the mouse pointer so as you move your jaws cursor you move the =
=3D
mouse pointer. The pc cursor on the other hand simply gives the control =
of
=3D the cursor or highlight or what ever to the application and jaws =
reads
what =3D it thinks it should. =3D20 Hth=3D20
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =3D =
Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:00 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: find command with IE
May I add that in a program like Word, the main point of focus on the =
=3D
page=3D20 is *not* the mouse pointer. That's just a tool for doing =
things,
like=3D20 selecting something, scrolling, clicking a button, and so =
forth.
the =3D focus=3D20 point for the eyes and for the program is in fact a =
cursor,
which can be =3D
changed in appearance to be tall, or short, or look sort of like a steel =
=3D
I=3D20 beam. That's where you are within your text, and that's what the
Jaws=3D20 cursor follows.
If this is not clear enough, I'll try to describe it again. But =
the=3D20
discussion seemed to be getting sort of abstract so I thought this=3D20
clarification might help.
----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: find command with IE
Hi, this is not true see the notepad find command in windows. In most =
=3D =3D3D
cases the sighted person or any other user would use the find command =
=3D
while editing or reading text. Internet explorer uses a verchual find =
in
=3D3D =3D order to simulate a cursor so the ie find built in only =
searches the
web page =3D =3D3D does not place a cursor any where because in a =
standard web
page there =3D is no cursor on the screen there is a mouse pointer that =
the
sighted user =3D3D =3D moves on the screen.=3D3D20
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
=3D3D =3D
Behalf Of Bruce Toews
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 11:15 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: find command with IE
It might help in this discussion to realize that a sighted person =3D3D
doesn't,=3D3D20 like a blind person, use a find command to place a =
cursor =3D on
a specific=3D3D20 word, so the find command as we use it would have =
little =3D
if any =3D3D relevance=3D3D20 to a sighted person.
Bruce
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Dave Speck wrote:
> The JAWS Find on the web is used for a blind user to find =3D
specific=3D3D20=3D20
> text on the screen, not the web page.
>
>
> Remember, He is Risen!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: find command with IE
>
>
>> Judith,
>>
>> that's different, email. It isn't the same environment as a =
Web=3D3D20=20
>> =3D
>> page.
>>
>> Under what sorts of conditions do you find it necessary on a Web page =
>> =3D
>> =3D3D
>> to
> use
>> Control Insert F? What advantage does that method confer?
>>
>> thank you,
>> Daniel
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: find command with IE
>>
>>
>> Sometimes on the web I have to use Control, insert F. Also, =3D
when=3D3D20=3D20
>> reading
> an
>> email and you want to find something on the page insert, control F is =
>> =3D
>> =3D3D
>> the only way to go.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 7:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: find command with IE
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I know this myself, but the simple Control F has always served =3D
me=3D3D20=3D20
>>> for finding anything on a Web page. What's the purpose of this
> Jaws-specific
>>> find command? thanks.
>>> purpsoe alwyas ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ricque" <ricque@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: find command with IE
>>>
>>>
>>> The Jaws find command is:
>>> control, insert, F
>>> Ricque
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Arliedog" <ddlmh50@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:32 AM
>>> Subject: find command with IE
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Listers,
>>> I am trying to help a friend learn to use JAWS. One command I =3D
am=3D3D20=3D20
>>> unable
>> to
>>> find is how to find something on a web page. I am wanting to search =
>>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>> for
> a
>>> word or phrase then have the cursor move to the first instance =3D
of=3D3D20=3D20
>>> that
>> word
>>> or phrase.
>>> Thanks
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