Yes, I know what you mean. However, JAWS uses the same virtual cursor (JAWS reading, etc.) environment for reading in both IE and Outlook Express. Microsoft Windows does not use the ctrl-F Find command for both Outlook Express and Windows Explorer. It is not exact duplication. Furthermore, do you want the JAWS Find Command not to work in any instances where the ctrl-f Windows command does not work either? Judith has given you her experience in general of some cases where the ctrl-f in IE does not appear to work. Someone else has mentioned the instance of text on buttons, where it does not work and the JAWS Find command does. Does that clarify for you what I mean? If you really do have a problem with the JAWS command, I would suggest you address it with Freedom Scieitnfic directly. You are the young Zen monk in this case, to use your earlier example. Nothing wrong with that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 3:07 AM Subject: Re: find command with IE Hi, The environment this was originally being discussed in relation to was not Outlook Express. It was Internet Explorer. I hope that helps to clarify. Thank you, Daniel ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: Re: find command with IE Well, according to JAWS, it is the same (virtual cursor) environment, at least when using Outlook Express. Besides, Ctrl-f in Outlook Express is the Forward Message command. So, you really must use Ctrl-JawsKey-F if you want to find something past the initial screen and also be using the virtual cursor, which you do both in the message body of received emails in Outlook Express and normally in Internet Explorer while using JAWS. No, Ctrl-F is not a universal Windows find command. JAWS does what it can, with Ctrl-JAWSKey-F, given what's available in the various programs. I like it, myself. ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:23 AM Subject: Re: find command with IE Judith, that's different, email. It isn't the same environment as a Web page. Under what sorts of conditions do you find it necessary on a Web page to use Control Insert F? What advantage does that method confer? thank you, Daniel ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: find command with IE Sometimes on the web I have to use Control, insert F. Also, when reading an email and you want to find something on the page insert, control F is the only way to go. ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: Re: find command with IE > Hi, > I know this myself, but the simple Control F has always served me for > finding anything on a Web page. What's the purpose of this Jaws-specific > find command? thanks. > purpsoe alwyas ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ricque" <ricque@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:33 PM > Subject: Re: find command with IE > > > The Jaws find command is: > control, insert, F > Ricque > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arliedog" <ddlmh50@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:32 AM > Subject: find command with IE > > > Hello Listers, > I am trying to help a friend learn to use JAWS. 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