Experimenting! I just know that some setting do not stick and some do, I experiment and make changes as needed. Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:15 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Smart Tags Rose, Where did you learn which of those settings holds for more than the present session in an application, and which actually change something as if you'd gone into the configuration manager menus? Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 10:18 AM Subject: RE: Smart Tags Some of the settings on the insert V menu are temporary, some are not, the smart tags and a few others, I don't remember exactly which ones now are permanent changes, in fact, I think most of them are except the reading with capital letters announced and punctuation. Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:31 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Smart Tags Interesting, Jack. So far as I've learned about that on-the-by Insert V menu, all the adjustments you make on its menu are meant only to hold for as long as you're in that session with that application. Interesting. I'll look through that Insert V menu for clues to other such anomalies. But the menu is generally meant to allow only temporary adjustments. Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Smart Tags Hi Daniel, Well, I went to my MS Word program and then hit insert V. I arrowed down once to smart tags and turned them off with the space bar. Tabbed once to close and hit enter. Jaws then announced that it saved my changes. Well, I wanted to test your theory that this was a temporary fix. So, I completely restarted the computer, and went back into the MS Word program. The verbosity setting to turn smart tags off was still turned off. So, in short, This will shut off Jaws reading smart tags in MS Word for good until you turn that feature back on. It's not temporary. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:37 PM Subject: Re: Smart Tags Jack, I'd just like to remind you that this solution is only a temporary one and that the solution Francis Daniels so painstakingly gave the steps for is the way to stop smart tags from being created even though you don't wish them to. Personally, I'd go with that, unless I had reason to believe that I might eventually study the uses of smart tags and begin creating them purposefully. But I don't personally think that's going to happen for me, and so simply turning them off altogether seems the best solution. By the way, I'm not sure if there's a corresponding setting you can make permanently in Jaws configuration manager to stop Jaws speaking smart tags. This would allow Word to keep creating smart tags whether you wanted them or not, but Jaws wouldn't speak them unless you turned the smart tag speaking back on. Butt, I don't know where that might be in the configuration menu. And I personally think Francis's solution is by far the one to be preferred, for most users. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:11 PM Subject: Re: Smart Tags Thank you! This is what I wanted to do all along! Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:48 PM Subject: RE: Smart Tags Did you know that under the insert V in MS word you can tell Jaws to stop reading smart tags, it is the first or second option, once you change it and press enter the saving is maintained until you change it again. Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david the wild-thing Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 6:08 AM To: jfw-list Subject: Re: Smart Tags You will need to go to the Format pull-down menu with Alt O. Then go to Auto format with the letter A. Press tab to get to the Options button and then press it with Enter or space bar. Press Control Tab once to get to the Smart tags page. The dialog box is now labeled AutoCorrect, but it's where you need to be. The first option is called "Label text with smart tags. It will be checked. Press space bar to uncheck it. Press tab to get to the next check box, labeled "Show smart tag action buttons." Make sure this check box is not checked. Press tab to get to the OK button, and press Enter. Exit the dialog box by tabbing to the Close button. okay, I did this, and, I'm still hearing "Smart Tag", in some of my documents. so, I took 1 more step. 1, open a Microsoft document, where your hearing "Smart Tag" 2, alt O, for the pull down menu, 3, A for auto format, 4, tab options, press enter, 5, ctrl tab to the smart tags page, 6, tab to, remove "Smart tags, press enter, 7, you will hear, "Microsoft Office Word This will remove all smart tags, including smart tags labeled by recognizers you may no longer have and smart tags recognized in a document opened on someone else's computer. You cannot undo this action. Do you want to continue? Yes No" 8, press enter. 9, press enter. 10, tab and enter on okay. your now placed back in your current document. now alt f4, and say yes to changes. reopen the document, you will not hear, "Smart Tags. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:58 PM Subject: Smart Tags Hi All, OK, I'm using Office Pro 2002, and I'm fighting with MS Word. In the options/view tab, there is a place to check or uncheck the smart tags. So, I unchecked it, and it still says smart tag. So, what's the point in being able to uncheck something if it won't go away? Any ideas? Jack -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. 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