Re: Modifying the dictionary

  • From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:59:30 -0500

*high five*.  Now that's funny!  Jack
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lillian Schwinn" <melady717@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary


> lol...that reminds me of the time I signed up for ebay and couldn't figure
> out why I needed a paypal account.  Didn't think it was for catholics only
> ;)
>
> Lil ~
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
>
>
>> Yes, you get used to the pronounciation blunders of our beloved
>> screenreader
>> and we don't bother with these faux pas.  Judith
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Candi Miller" <jesusfreak23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
>>
>>
>>> no you know what's worse a few years ago I did some editing work on a
>> bunch
>>> of packets for an angency associated with the EPA, and all the packets
>> were
>>> about led. I purposely spelled that wrong because every time it would
>>> pernounce it leed. The packets sounded a bit funny at first, but after a
>>> while you get used to it.
>>> reguards from Candi:
>>>  MSN: cmlwestlife15@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> skype: blindaida822
>>> Email: jesusfreak23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
>>>
>>>
>>> > And here's the topper of them all!  I'm talking about the word, L, I,
>>> > V,
>>> > E.
>>> > We are at the mercy of jaws as to which of the pronunciations it will
>>> > throw
>>> > at us.  And it never fails that it will pick the wrong one every 
>>> > single
>>> > time!  LOL.  Jack
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:27 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> To be serious for a moment, I guess either the synth or your screen
>>> >> reader
>>> >> ought to employ a heuristic for parsing such things and making an
>>> >> educated
>>> >> contextual guess that the grammar, good or bad, doesn't suggest that
>> this
>>> >> could possibly mean inches.  Just thinking.
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
>>> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:21 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> It's worse if you have DecTalk combined with people with bad 
>>> >>> grammar.
>>> >>> Any
>>> >>> sentence ending in "in", DecTalk wants to say inch.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bruce
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Bruce Toews
>>> >>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx
>>> >>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>> http://www.ogts.net
>>> >>> For information on my weekly radio show visit
>>> >>> http://radioclassics.ogts.net
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Jack Lowe wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> LOL!  Daniel, you can run into the same headache with using St
>> period.
>>> >>>> You
>>> >>>> have to choose between Street, or saint.  It's just that Street
>>> >>>> Peter
>>> >>>> just
>>> >>>> doesn't sound right.  Ya ya know?  LOL.  Jack
>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:04 PM
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> I agree, Judith.  I've learned the same lesson experimenting with
>> less
>>> >>>>> exotic examples, such as modifying the dictionary to have Jaws say
>>> >>>>> "drive"
>>> >>>>> when it sees the "Dr." abbreviation in an address.  Of course,it's
>>> >>>>> only
>>> >>>>> I
>>> >>>>> who knows when the context is a street address, with the result
>>> >>>>> that
>>> >>>>> the
>>> >>>>> dictionary began also referring to everyone with a doctoral degree
>> in
>>> >>>>> any
>>> >>>>> field as "Drive."  So, for a brief, silly period, everyone from my
>>> >>>>> primary
>>> >>>>> care physician to academics and scientists quoted in New York 
>>> >>>>> Times
>>> >>>>> articles
>>> >>>>> acquired the Christian name Drive.  that was a bit weird.  As the
>> only
>>> >>>>> alternative would be to allow the famous street lined with
>> extravagant
>>> >>>>> boutiques in downtown Beverly Hills to be renamed Rodeo Doctor--
>>> >>>>> though
>>> >>>>> I
>>> >>>>> suppose, among bull riders and bronc busters there really exist
>>> >>>>> such
>> a
>>> >>>>> professional-- I gave it up.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> So now I tolerate good old dee are period and learn to like it.
>>> >>>>> It'
>> s
>>> >>>>> not
>>> >>>>> all that painful.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:49 PM
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Of course you are right.  I was just pointing out that with that
>>> >>>>>> adaptation
>>> >>>>>> to the dictionary the sentence, "I was eating a sandwich of 
>>> >>>>>> peatut
>>> >>>>>> butter
>>> >>>>>> and jam." would sound very strange.  I do a lot of writing with
>>> >>>>>> foreign
>>> >>>>>> words and names but adapting the dictionary to everything I need
>> jaws
>>> >>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>> say
>>> >>>>>> when coming acrosss certain letters or letter combinations would
>>> >>>>>> be
>>> >>>>>> intollerable.  Judith
>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>> From: "KStarrett" <kstarrett5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:37 PM
>>> >>>>>> Subject: RE: Modifying the dictionary
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Hi Judith,
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> You said,
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> When writing m.123 it already says m.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Which is true. But if you redefine M. to say monsieur, then you
>> type
>>> >>>>>>> M.123
>>> >>>>>>> jaws will say monsieur 123.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> See the problem?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> And modifying your example, what would happen in a sentence such
>> as:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> At the M.L.A. convention M. de Gaul ate a sandwich of
>>> >>>>>>> peanutbutter
>>> >>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>> jam.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Kimberly Judith
>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>>>> From: <kstarrett5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:46 PM
>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Modifying the dictionary
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> >>>>>>>>> I am trying to modify the jaws default dictionary to do the
>>> >>>>>>>>> following:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> When jaws encounters the letter M followed by a period then a
>>> >>>>>>>> space I want
>>> >>>>>>>> it to say "monsieur" as in monsieur de Gaul.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> When jaws encounters the letter M followed by a period and
>>> >>>>>>>> another letter
>>> >>>>>>>> (like M.L.A.) I want it to say M.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this possible?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> --
>>> >>>>>>>>> Kimberly Starrett
>>> >>>>>>>>> "Sharing an office is like being in a Beckett play...after
>>> >>>>>>>> everything has
>>> >>>>>>>> been said you still must go on talking."
>>> >>>>>>>>> Edmund White, in "The Farewell Symphony".
>>> >>>>>>>>>
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