Re: Modifying the dictionary

  • From: kstarrett5@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:14:42 +0000

To be honest, I'm not sure how the "use other dictionaries" option works.


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> If you can use the multiple dictionaries together can you set M. to say 
> Mosieur in French and in English it is just "m."? I'm talking about them 
> running simultaneously. Then how would jaws know what language you are 
> using at any given time? For example, if you had a statement in your 
> document, "M. Pratt went to the opera." Would jaws recognize that you were 
> speaking French when the M. was followed by a surname? Then what would 
> happen with our statement, "I at a sandwich of peanut butter and jam."? Is 
> this clear? 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yardbird" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:01 PM 
> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary 
> 
> 
> > Judith, 
> > 
> > There is an option to use multiple dictionaries in Word for spell 
> checking. 
> > But I thought the topic here was the *Jaws* pronouncing dictionary! I'm 
> > confused. 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Judith Bron" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:52 PM 
> > Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary 
> > 
> > 
> > > Is there a way to combine foreign dictionaries with the MS Word 
> > > dictionary? 
> > > For example if that were the case when reading M. in the French part of 
> > > the 
> > > dictionary you would have your Mosieur and in the English part you could 
> > > have your peanut butter and jam. Just thinking, Judith 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Yardbird" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:27 PM 
> > > Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> To be serious for a moment, I guess either the synth or your screen 
> > >> reader 
> > >> ought to employ a heuristic for parsing such things and making an 
> > >> educated 
> > >> contextual guess that the grammar, good or bad, doesn't suggest that 
> this 
> > >> could possibly mean inches. Just thinking. 
> > >> 
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: "Bruce Toews" 
> > >> To: 
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:21 PM 
> > >> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> > It's worse if you have DecTalk combined with people with bad grammar. 
> > > Any 
> > >> > sentence ending in "in", DecTalk wants to say inch. 
> > >> > 
> > >> > Bruce 
> > >> > 
> > >> > -- 
> > >> > Bruce Toews 
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> > >> > 
> > >> > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Jack Lowe wrote: 
> > >> > 
> > >> >> LOL! Daniel, you can run into the same headache with using St 
> period. 
> > >> >> You 
> > >> >> have to choose between Street, or saint. It's just that Street 
> Peter 
> > >> >> just 
> > >> >> doesn't sound right. Ya ya know? LOL. Jack 
> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> >> From: "Yardbird" 
> > >> >> To: 
> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:04 PM 
> > >> >> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary 
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> 
> > >> >>> I agree, Judith. I've learned the same lesson experimenting with 
> > >> >>> less 
> > >> >>> exotic examples, such as modifying the dictionary to have Jaws say 
> > >> >>> "drive" 
> > >> >>> when it sees the "Dr." abbreviation in an address. Of course,it's 
> > > only 
> > >> >>> I 
> > >> >>> who knows when the context is a street address, with the result 
> that 
> > > the 
> > >> >>> dictionary began also referring to everyone with a doctoral degree 
> in 
> > >> >>> any 
> > >> >>> field as "Drive." So, for a brief, silly period, everyone from my 
> > >> >>> primary 
> > >> >>> care physician to academics and scientists quoted in New York Times 
> > >> >>> articles 
> > >> >>> acquired the Christian name Drive. that was a bit weird. As the 
> > >> >>> only 
> > >> >>> alternative would be to allow the famous street lined with 
> > >> >>> extravagant 
> > >> >>> boutiques in downtown Beverly Hills to be renamed Rodeo Doctor-- 
> > > though 
> > >> >>> I 
> > >> >>> suppose, among bull riders and bronc busters there really exist 
> such 
> > >> >>> a 
> > >> >>> professional-- I gave it up. 
> > >> >>> 
> > >> >>> So now I tolerate good old dee are period and learn to like it. 
> It's 
> > >> >>> not 
> > >> >>> all that painful. 
> > >> >>> 
> > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> >>> From: "Judith Bron" 
> > >> >>> To: 
> > >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:49 PM 
> > >> >>> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary 
> > >> >>> 
> > >> >>> 
> > >> >>>> Of course you are right. I was just pointing out that with that 
> > >> >>>> adaptation 
> > >> >>>> to the dictionary the sentence, "I was eating a sandwich of peatut 
> > >> >>>> butter 
> > >> >>>> and jam." would sound very strange. I do a lot of writing with 
> > > foreign 
> > >> >>>> words and names but adapting the dictionary to everything I need 
> > >> >>>> jaws 
> > >> >>>> to 
> > >> >>>> say 
> > >> >>>> when coming acrosss certain letters or letter combinations would 
> be 
> > >> >>>> intollerable. Judith 
> > >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> >>>> From: "KStarrett" 
> > >> >>>> To: 
> > >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:37 PM 
> > >> >>>> Subject: RE: Modifying the dictionary 
> > >> >>>> 
> > >> >>>> 
> > >> >>>>> Hi Judith, 
> > >> >>>>> 
> > >> >>>>> You said, 
> > >> >>>>> 
> > >> >>>>>> When writing m.123 it already says m. 
> > >> >>>>> 
> > >> >>>>> Which is true. But if you redefine M. to say monsieur, then you 
> > >> >>>>> type 
> > >> >>>>> M.123 
> > >> >>>>> jaws will say monsieur 123. 
> > >> >>>>> 
> > >> >>>>> See the problem? 
> > >> >>>>> 
> > >> >>>>> And modifying your example, what would happen in a sentence such 
> > >> >>>>> as: 
> > >> >>>>> 
> > >> >>>>> At the M.L.A. convention M. de Gaul ate a sandwich of 
> peanutbutter 
> > > and 
> > >> >>>> jam. 
> > >> >>>>> 
> > >> >>>>> Kimberly Judith 
> > >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> >>>>>> From: 
> > >> >>>>>> To: 
> > >> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:46 PM 
> > >> >>>>>> Subject: Modifying the dictionary 
> > >> >>>>>> 
> > >> >>>>>> 
> > >> >>>>>>> Hi Everyone, 
> > >> >>>>>>> I am trying to modify the jaws default dictionary to do the 
> > >> >>>>>>> following: 
> > >> >>>>>>> 
> > >> >>>>>>> When jaws encounters the letter M followed by a period then a 
> > >> >>>>>> space I want 
> > >> >>>>>> it to say "monsieur" as in monsieur de Gaul. 
> > >> >>>>>>> 
> > >> >>>>>>> When jaws encounters the letter M followed by a period and 
> > >> >>>>>> another letter 
> > >> >>>>>> (like M.L.A.) I want it to say M. 
> > >> >>>>>>> 
> > >> >>>>>>> Is this possible? 
> > >> >>>>>>> 
> > >> >>>>>>> -- 
> > >> >>>>>>> Kimberly Starrett 
> > >> >>>>>>> "Sharing an office is like being in a Beckett play...after 
> > >> >>>>>> everything has 
> > >> >>>>>> been said you still must go on talking." 
> > >> >>>>>>> Edmund White, in "The Farewell Symphony". 
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