Re: Modifying the dictionary

  • From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:00:00 -0500

If you can use the multiple dictionaries together can you set M. to say
Mosieur in French and in English it is just "m."?  I'm talking about them
running simultaneously.  Then how would jaws know what language you are
using at any given time?  For example, if you had a statement in your
document, "M. Pratt went to the opera."  Would jaws recognize that you were
speaking French when the M. was followed by a surname?  Then what would
happen with our statement, "I at a sandwich of peanut butter and jam."?  Is
this clear?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary


> Judith,
>
> There is an option to use multiple dictionaries in Word for spell
checking.
> But I thought the topic here was the *Jaws* pronouncing dictionary!  I'm
> confused.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
>
>
> > Is there a way to combine foreign dictionaries with the MS Word
> > dictionary?
> > For example if that were the case when reading M. in the French part of
> > the
> > dictionary you would have your Mosieur and in the English part you could
> > have your peanut butter and jam.  Just thinking, Judith
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
> >
> >
> >> To be serious for a moment, I guess either the synth or your screen
> >> reader
> >> ought to employ a heuristic for parsing such things and making an
> >> educated
> >> contextual guess that the grammar, good or bad, doesn't suggest that
this
> >> could possibly mean inches.  Just thinking.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:21 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
> >>
> >>
> >> > It's worse if you have DecTalk combined with people with bad grammar.
> > Any
> >> > sentence ending in "in", DecTalk wants to say inch.
> >> >
> >> > Bruce
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Bruce Toews
> >> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx
> >> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> >> > http://www.ogts.net
> >> > For information on my weekly radio show visit
> >> > http://radioclassics.ogts.net
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Jack Lowe wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> LOL!  Daniel, you can run into the same headache with using St
period.
> >> >> You
> >> >> have to choose between Street, or saint.  It's just that Street
Peter
> >> >> just
> >> >> doesn't sound right.  Ya ya know?  LOL.  Jack
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:04 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> I agree, Judith.  I've learned the same lesson experimenting with
> >> >>> less
> >> >>> exotic examples, such as modifying the dictionary to have Jaws say
> >> >>> "drive"
> >> >>> when it sees the "Dr." abbreviation in an address.  Of course,it's
> > only
> >> >>> I
> >> >>> who knows when the context is a street address, with the result
that
> > the
> >> >>> dictionary began also referring to everyone with a doctoral degree
in
> >> >>> any
> >> >>> field as "Drive."  So, for a brief, silly period, everyone from my
> >> >>> primary
> >> >>> care physician to academics and scientists quoted in New York Times
> >> >>> articles
> >> >>> acquired the Christian name Drive.  that was a bit weird.  As the
> >> >>> only
> >> >>> alternative would be to allow the famous street lined with
> >> >>> extravagant
> >> >>> boutiques in downtown Beverly Hills to be renamed Rodeo Doctor--
> > though
> >> >>> I
> >> >>> suppose, among bull riders and bronc busters there really exist
such
> >> >>> a
> >> >>> professional-- I gave it up.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So now I tolerate good old dee are period and learn to like it.
It's
> >> >>> not
> >> >>> all that painful.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:49 PM
> >> >>> Subject: Re: Modifying the dictionary
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Of course you are right.  I was just pointing out that with that
> >> >>>> adaptation
> >> >>>> to the dictionary the sentence, "I was eating a sandwich of peatut
> >> >>>> butter
> >> >>>> and jam." would sound very strange.  I do a lot of writing with
> > foreign
> >> >>>> words and names but adapting the dictionary to everything I need
> >> >>>> jaws
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> say
> >> >>>> when coming acrosss certain letters or letter combinations would
be
> >> >>>> intollerable.  Judith
> >> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>> From: "KStarrett" <kstarrett5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:37 PM
> >> >>>> Subject: RE: Modifying the dictionary
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Hi Judith,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> You said,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> When writing m.123 it already says m.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Which is true. But if you redefine M. to say monsieur, then you
> >> >>>>> type
> >> >>>>> M.123
> >> >>>>> jaws will say monsieur 123.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> See the problem?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> And modifying your example, what would happen in a sentence such
> >> >>>>> as:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> At the M.L.A. convention M. de Gaul ate a sandwich of
peanutbutter
> > and
> >> >>>> jam.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Kimberly Judith
> >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>>>> From: <kstarrett5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:46 PM
> >> >>>>>> Subject: Modifying the dictionary
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
> >> >>>>>>> I am trying to modify the jaws default dictionary to do the
> >> >>>>>>> following:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> When jaws encounters the letter M followed by a period then a
> >> >>>>>> space I want
> >> >>>>>> it to say "monsieur" as in monsieur de Gaul.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> When jaws encounters the letter M followed by a period and
> >> >>>>>> another letter
> >> >>>>>> (like M.L.A.) I want it to say M.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Is this possible?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>> Kimberly Starrett
> >> >>>>>>> "Sharing an office is like being in a Beckett play...after
> >> >>>>>> everything has
> >> >>>>>> been said you still must go on talking."
> >> >>>>>>> Edmund White, in "The Farewell Symphony".
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