Re: JFW/PROGRAMMING
- From: "George Marshall" <marshall.geoma4@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:39:38 -0400
Tom:
I am surprised IBM didn't give you one of there terminals with speech. I also
programmed on IBM 360,370 and 9000's. I think about 1982 IBM developed a
terminal with speech, had a numeric like pad attached with a cord used to
control reading of the screen.
George R. Marshall
marshall.geoma4@xxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Lange
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: JFW/PROGRAMMING
Hi,
I wish I'd known about JAWS back in the Eighties, it might have made life
easier for me in some respects. I did mainframe programming for IBM from 1978
to 1994 in a VM environment, programming using the APL programming language up
until around 1987 or so. After that I programmed using Rexx, which was very
English-like.
I didn't know about screen reading solutions for the PC until 1994, so all
through that time I was at IBM, I used an Optacon to read the screen. That was
actually pretty cool, if a bit inefficient.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob W
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: JFW/PROGRAMMING
Hi Prakash.
I am retired now, but was a mainframe programmer from the early seventies
to the late 1990s. I used jaws from the early 80s to my retirement. I don't
think I could have done programming without it.
What you are proposing--going from a visual programmer to a nonvisual
programmer--is a daunting, but not impossible, challenge.
I suspect that you do not know Braille. Knowledge of Braille and an 80-cell
display would be a great tool to have in your arsenal. You don't need to learn
literary Braille, or even grade two Braille (though this might be helpful. But,
I would suggest that you emphasize learning computer Braille, which in some
ways is superior to literary Braille.
As I said earlier, your challenges may seem daunting, but they can also be
fun, and they may enhance your creativity.
Good luck, and when you run into problems, this list is a great place to
seek answers.
Bob
A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that
thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams
----- Original Message -----
From: john.falter
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: JFW/PROGRAMMING
I programmed in assembly language and Cobol for 8 years using JAWS..
----- Original Message -----
From: PRAKASH P
To: JFW@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: PRAKASH P
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:42 AM
Subject: JFW/PROGRAMMING
I HAVE RECENTLY COME TO A POINT WHERE I CANNOT DO ANYTHING VISUALLY ON
THE COMPUTER SCREEN.
I HAVE BEEN USING zOOMtEXT AUDIO EFFECTIVELY UNTIL NOW. But now I am
told JFW is the way to go.
Can someone give me a good view/opinion of how effective/efficient
would it b to do programming for a living with or without JFW.
I have 20 years of programming experience with MS environments being
the latest. I am able to read all ctooll tip based text and the program
text itself but not sure if I can compete with
The visually enhanced set. I know I have much learning to do but I
would like a seasoned person to give a sense of whats possible.
I am a good learner if not a speedy one.
I am trying to figure out if I should or should not give up on serious
implementation responsibilities.
Thanks for any and all input I can get.
Prakash
Prakash
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