RE: JFW/PROGRAMMING

  • From: PRAKASH P <P.Prakash@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:05:43 +0000

Thanks.  Would help to know if he programs in  some language. But I don't know 
Braille yet and  not sure if
I will  get to that level of  ability with it soon.

Prakash


From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Yadiel Sotomayor
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:31 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW/PROGRAMMING

I am not a programmer, although I would like to learn. But I do know a blind 
programmer. He uses a large 80 cell braille display and a portable 40 braille 
display from programming on the go. He says that it helps a lot to "see" the 
line of code and it is easier to find problems and stuff like that.

From: John Martyn<mailto:johnrobertmartyn@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:32 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: JFW/PROGRAMMING

I can understand your struggle. I used to do much in the way of programming. 
Now after almost 3 years of being blind, I jumped back on that horse. It was an 
adjustment period but I think the things that have changed the most is learning 
to structure your code the way it is written differently. Each line has to be 
read out so it is best to have different profiles for programming than just 
navigating with jaws. Debugging is a little more difficult so to read each line 
more thoroughly can be time consuming. I have jaws read out every little 
character. It just takes practice. Some programs don't read the lines the way 
you wish they would. I am still experimenting with using jaws configuration 
files to customize the way I interact with each line. I think as far as ease of 
coding, jaws script is the most forgiving in terms of debugging things because 
the compiler has code checking for you. Other programs are not as forgiving. 
PHP and mySQL is a challenge, but I can still do it. I'm just getting started 
on C++ so I'll see how it goes.
You can write to me off list if you have more questions,
JohnRobertMartyn@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:JohnRobertMartyn@xxxxxxxxx>
regards,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Hina Altaf<mailto:haltaf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:45 AM
Subject: RE: JFW/PROGRAMMING

Hi,
I think to listen to a code with jaws can be a bit challenging because you 
might not notice what exactly is wrong, so it is better to read the code with 
braille display attached. I myself studied programming and it was possible but 
you have to get used to listening to the code with jaws.
Thanks.
Hina altaf
Assistive technology specialist.

From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
PRAKASH P
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:43 AM
To: JFW@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: PRAKASH P
Subject: JFW/PROGRAMMING

I HAVE RECENTLY  COME TO A POINT WHERE I CANNOT DO ANYTHING VISUALLY ON THE 
COMPUTER SCREEN.
I HAVE BEEN USING zOOMtEXT AUDIO  EFFECTIVELY UNTIL NOW. But now I am told JFW  
is the way to go.

Can someone give  me a good  view/opinion of how effective/efficient would it b 
to do programming for a living with or without JFW.

I have 20 years of programming experience with MS environments being the  
latest.  I am able to read all ctooll tip  based text  and the program text 
itself  but  not sure if I can  compete with
The visually   enhanced set.  I know I have much learning to do but I would 
like  a seasoned person to give  a sense of whats possible.
I am a good learner if not a speedy one.

I am trying to  figure out if I should or should not give up on serious 
implementation responsibilities.

Thanks for any and all  input  I can get.

Prakash



Prakash


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