RE: JFW/PROGRAMMING
- From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:52:44 -0600
Yes, JAWS sure would have helped a whole lot.
I am sorry – but – I also wish we still had DOS.
I do miss it even though W7 and such do have an awful lot of really neat things.
One of the nicest features of W7 is that after something unforseen happens and
you have to fire back up you are exactly where you were when the “oopsie”
occurred.
Remember the old days when such an event would cause the computer to wander
through the entire C drive to see if all was alright and you are sitting there,
foaming at the mouth, needint to get that last email or project completed?
Well, perhaps I do not miss DOS as much as I thought I did. (LOLLOLLOL)
Cy, The Anasazi
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Tom Lange
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:52 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW/PROGRAMMING
Hi,
I wish I'd known about JAWS back in the Eighties, it might have made life
easier for me in some respects. I did mainframe programming for IBM from 1978
to 1994 in a VM environment, programming using the APL programming language up
until around 1987 or so. After that I programmed using Rexx, which was very
English-like.
I didn't know about screen reading solutions for the PC until 1994, so all
through that time I was at IBM, I used an Optacon to read the screen. That was
actually pretty cool, if a bit inefficient.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob W <mailto:rwiley45@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: JFW/PROGRAMMING
Hi Prakash.
I am retired now, but was a mainframe programmer from the early seventies to
the late 1990s. I used jaws from the early 80s to my retirement. I don't think
I could have done programming without it.
What you are proposing--going from a visual programmer to a nonvisual
programmer--is a daunting, but not impossible, challenge.
I suspect that you do not know Braille. Knowledge of Braille and an 80-cell
display would be a great tool to have in your arsenal. You don't need to learn
literary Braille, or even grade two Braille (though this might be helpful. But,
I would suggest that you emphasize learning computer Braille, which in some
ways is superior to literary Braille.
As I said earlier, your challenges may seem daunting, but they can also be fun,
and they may enhance your creativity.
Good luck, and when you run into problems, this list is a great place to seek
answers.
Bob
A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing
you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams
----- Original Message -----
From: john.falter <mailto:john.falter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: JFW/PROGRAMMING
I programmed in assembly language and Cobol for 8 years using JAWS..
----- Original Message -----
From: PRAKASH P <mailto:P.Prakash@xxxxxxx>
To: JFW@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: PRAKASH P <mailto:P.Prakash@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:42 AM
Subject: JFW/PROGRAMMING
I HAVE RECENTLY COME TO A POINT WHERE I CANNOT DO ANYTHING VISUALLY ON THE
COMPUTER SCREEN.
I HAVE BEEN USING zOOMtEXT AUDIO EFFECTIVELY UNTIL NOW. But now I am told JFW
is the way to go.
Can someone give me a good view/opinion of how effective/efficient would it b
to do programming for a living with or without JFW.
I have 20 years of programming experience with MS environments being the
latest. I am able to read all ctooll tip based text and the program text
itself but not sure if I can compete with
The visually enhanced set. I know I have much learning to do but I would
like a seasoned person to give a sense of whats possible.
I am a good learner if not a speedy one.
I am trying to figure out if I should or should not give up on serious
implementation responsibilities.
Thanks for any and all input I can get.
Prakash
Prakash
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