Re: JAWS continuing to talk
- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "org, jfw@freelists. " <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 19:45:10 +0100
well with sight village next week in the Uk,at times a fs bigwig comes to talk
big words about fs,maybe eric damery or that other fellow,maybe he will be made
to defend the product in the hall,cannot recal the name of another of your fs
team, incidentally I heard today someone mention something called Cobra, that
worked well but the website was in german,your mention of Python reminded me,
if you are following your own convention in dalass,you may know more than we
do in Uk. The person who toldme he was flying there on July 4th had the same
name as the maker of cobra. I think it means tree in german dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Durber
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk
Ted:
I could not agree with you more.
Who ever programmed the British English voice for Eloquence, should be shot,
then, hung, drawn and quartered, for coming up with such an abomination as to
how British people pronounce words.
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS continuing to talk
At least the British and Australian Real Speak samples sound plausible.
The British JFW has got to be the worst I've ever heard-it's a really bad joke.
If the idea was to make UK citizens feel comfortable, that poor mush-mouthed
attempt fell way short of the mark-BBC it ain't!
Ted
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:26 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk
i was joking a little I use eloquence for ease of use but I did use daniel
for a while in the ocr and as I said one had no control I do not know the old
speech engine you mention decktalk, it was xp when I started,and I thought I
would never get used to artificial speech, I think the other voices are bits
of human speech, I cannot find the right words perhaps digitised human speech,
daniel was a real thug however dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS continuing to talk
I just used the burn example to show one possible use. As I said, it's
nothing but a storage area, any kind of storage area. Yes, I'm familiar with
Brother Daniel. I play with the Real Speak voices from time to time as
alternates, but rely primarily on Eloquence for speed and accuracy. Artificial
though they are, I can really fly with the stock voices, whereas I have to pay
much closer attention in order to comprehend Real Speak.
The best artificial speech I ever heard was the old hardware-based
DecTalk. I think NOAA, New York Weather radio, and other automated services
still use something like it, although it may be software based now.
Ted
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:42 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk
well ted the person who told me was very clever he made his own
computers,it was not burning to cd he meant at all,or the buffet you mention
is that G and Tonic?,I was at the time not able to stop jaws reading at all,and
I think the buffer was perhaps to do with available ram? I am really grasping
at straws. However an example if moderator permits, in my ocr I had at that
time a voice called daniel 22 hertz,now daniel did the same trick,wouldnot be
paused just went on like a steam roller,so the vi friend tried to explain it
like I have, not letting something out at one end before adding to it,Oh sounds
not very nice but you know what I mean.Jaws does that ,and you have to let it
or force off dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS continuing to talk
A buffer is merely a storage area. I frankly don't know what practical
use it serves here, but that the short answer. In the early days of CD
burning, it was vital to insure the flow of information was never interrupted,
unless you wanted a pretty new drink coaster, because that's all you'd have if
a burn was interrupted. Now there's a practical use for a buffer.
Ted
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:36 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk
just a reminder, as mentioned I do not have anytechnical knowledge,
but a vi friend once tried to explain about the buffer not emptying being a
cause,and my desperate key strokes trying to stop jaws adding matterinto the
funnel,wwhich could not empty,so if this means anything to you do try to
explain to me, the implication is of course to let Jaws just go on speaking
until it runs out of steam! Of course if it is determined to read the whole
computer contents ,you are in for a long haul Dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS continuing to talk
Thanks for the heads up, guys. I've flirted with the idea of
bringing 11 in on this office machine, precisely because of Outlook's quirky
behavior (Regulars may recall I had earlier surmised swapping out the video
card cured my problem; it made it better, but it didn't cure it.). Well, your
problems sound worse than mine, so I think I'll leave well enough alone.
Ted
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:09 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk
Yes, I've had them with JAWS 11, XP Pro, 32-bit, usually when using
Outlook 2007. Only resolution is to kill JAWS and reload. Very annoying. Bites
me about once a week, on average.
It does seem to be more prevalent when I'm using other applications
simultaneously, such as Adobe, Excel,IE7.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Cy Selfridge
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 06:58
Subject: JAWS continuing to talk
Hi All,
With JAWS 11, W7 64 bit, Outlook 2007 good old JAWS will, upon
occasion, continue to talk when reading an email regardless of attempts to shut
it up.
Nothing I do seems to cause JAWS to stop until it has exhausted the
entire email. Next thing which usually happens is that JAWS goes away and I
need to fire it back up again.
Anyone else have these problems?
Cy, The Anasazi
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