RE: JAWS continuing to talk
- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:16:17 -0400
The "British English" option is part of eloquence, and is truly God
awful! That description someone gave you is pretty close, but you have
to experience it. Of Course, it's available on all Eloquence voices-now
playing at a sound card near you.
Ted
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:18 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk
i have not tried them with jaws I think I have them didn't they come
with Jaws 10? or was it earlier I just assumed they would be like the
Ocr daniel impossible to stop,there used to be one in the past lists
made fun of and called it"jaws Posh,they said it was like a public
school boy who had a swollen lip, for my Ocr I like voice text Paul or
kate Jane sounds very old fashioned now but they made a great fuss when
Jane real english speech came out. most not speak of other products I
know but is hard to avoid at times. I was told about a make do voice to
use when you cannot use Jaws for the moment and narator is so dreadful
but I have not tried it I think it is something like access, or maybe
say to go,no, sounds wrong anyway I will try the ones you mention after
all I must have them a good while I have not missed anyJaws update, but
I do not have professional equipment and I expect you do dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <mailto:Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS continuing to talk
At least the British and Australian Real Speak samples sound
plausible. The British JFW has got to be the worst I've ever heard-it's
a really bad joke. If the idea was to make UK citizens feel
comfortable, that poor mush-mouthed attempt fell way short of the
mark-BBC it ain't!
Ted
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:26 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk
i was joking a little I use eloquence for ease of use but I did
use daniel for a while in the ocr and as I said one had no control I do
not know the old speech engine you mention decktalk, it was xp when I
started,and I thought I would never get used to artificial speech, I
think the other voices are bits of human speech, I cannot find the
right words perhaps digitised human speech, daniel was a real thug
however dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <mailto:Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS continuing to talk
I just used the burn example to show one possible use.
As I said, it's nothing but a storage area, any kind of storage area.
Yes, I'm familiar with Brother Daniel. I play with the Real Speak voices
from time to time as alternates, but rely primarily on Eloquence for
speed and accuracy. Artificial though they are, I can really fly with
the stock voices, whereas I have to pay much closer attention in order
to comprehend Real Speak.
The best artificial speech I ever heard was the old
hardware-based DecTalk. I think NOAA, New York Weather radio, and other
automated services still use something like it, although it may be
software based now.
Ted
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:42 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk
well ted the person who told me was very clever he made
his own computers,it was not burning to cd he meant at all,or the buffet
you mention is that G and Tonic?,I was at the time not able to stop jaws
reading at all,and I think the buffer was perhaps to do with available
ram? I am really grasping at straws. However an example if moderator
permits, in my ocr I had at that time a voice called daniel 22 hertz,now
daniel did the same trick,wouldnot be paused just went on like a steam
roller,so the vi friend tried to explain it like I have, not letting
something out at one end before adding to it,Oh sounds not very nice but
you know what I mean.Jaws does that ,and you have to let it or force off
dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
<mailto:Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS continuing to talk
A buffer is merely a storage area. I frankly
don't know what practical use it serves here, but that the short answer.
In the early days of CD burning, it was vital to insure the flow of
information was never interrupted, unless you wanted a pretty new drink
coaster, because that's all you'd have if a burn was interrupted. Now
there's a practical use for a buffer.
Ted
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:36 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk
just a reminder, as mentioned I do not have
anytechnical knowledge, but a vi friend once tried to explain about the
buffer not emptying being a cause,and my desperate key strokes trying to
stop jaws adding matterinto the funnel,wwhich could not empty,so if
this means anything to you do try to explain to me, the implication is
of course to let Jaws just go on speaking until it runs out of steam! Of
course if it is determined to read the whole computer contents ,you are
in for a long haul Dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
<mailto:Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS continuing to talk
Thanks for the heads up, guys. I've
flirted with the idea of bringing 11 in on this office machine,
precisely because of Outlook's quirky behavior (Regulars may recall I
had earlier surmised swapping out the video card cured my problem; it
made it better, but it didn't cure it.). Well, your problems sound
worse than mine, so I think I'll leave well enough alone.
Ted
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:09 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk
Yes, I've had them with JAWS 11, XP Pro,
32-bit, usually when using Outlook 2007. Only resolution is to kill JAWS
and reload. Very annoying. Bites me about once a week, on average.
It does seem to be more prevalent when
I'm using other applications simultaneously, such as Adobe, Excel,IE7.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Cy Selfridge
<mailto:cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 06:58
Subject: JAWS continuing to talk
Hi All,
With JAWS 11, W7 64 bit, Outlook 2007
good old JAWS will, upon occasion, continue to talk when reading an
email regardless of attempts to shut it up.
Nothing I do seems to cause JAWS to stop
until it has exhausted the entire email. Next thing which usually
happens is that JAWS goes away and I need to fire it back up again.
Anyone else have these problems?
Cy, The Anasazi
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