Hello List I agree with what Graham had to say. Rashmi Shah----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:02 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Wiltshire Farm Foods website
maybe it will, but I don't think many people would want to move away fromthe browser they get as default with their operating system just to order abit of food.That being said there are many users who do use firefox because it tends tobe less of a target for virus and other malware writers. and others are just pro openSource or would prefer to not use microsoft where possible. I think therefore that it is good practice to ensure that the site workswith both browsers as these are easily the 2 most commonly used by everyone.Regards Graham Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 11:14 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Wiltshire Farm Foods website Friends Matthew Curry has asked me off list if I will try using Firefox, as he thinks it might work better with their site. I don't really want to getinto this, as I don't have much time to play around continually learning newprograms. I am not sure why he wants this, as the vast majority of peoplestill use Internet Explorer, but if anyone uses Firefox and would be willingto experiment, please could they let him know. Wendy -----Original Message-----From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] OnBehalf Of Léonie Watson Sent: 24 September 2007 23:07 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Wiltshire Farm Foods website Graham, To build on what you say, it should be added that there is no longer any valid technical reason for building an alternative website. The technology now exists to create a visually appealing site, that is both user friendly and accessible. Regards, Léonie. -- http://www.tink.co.uk/ -----Original Message-----From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] OnBehalf Of Graham Page Sent: 24 September 2007 14:31 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Wiltshire Farm Foods website Hi all.I have followed this thread with interest and like others I am pleased thatWiltshire Farm Foods are taking the needs of screenreader users into account. I will be certainly giving the food a go myself. I know many people have emailed Matthew privately so maybe the point about separate accessible sites has already been well covered. Tesco is certainly a very well known example of a company that tried to create an accessible site, but it has had and still continues to have signifficant usability issues and I find the main site perfectly usable anyway, even though there are a few problems of usability namely the inability to empty your shopping basket with one button or link if you decide you want to start a new order and remove a partially completed one.Overall, separate accessible sites mean more work and and there is a risk ofthe accessible site falling behind the main site when it comes to newfeatures. Keep in mind also, when evaluating accessibility with new users, that ability to actually use the features provided with the screenreader canvary. Lots of people say they hate tables for example when sometimes thetruth is they just don't know how to navigate them with their screenreader.I looked around the website with JAWS and System Access and found thingsquite navigable though I did not try adding anything to my basket. I would rather see the limited resources that all companies by definition must haveused on creating an accessible website to start with than having resources wasted generating too separate websites. Regards Graham Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Curry" <Matthew.Curry@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Wiltshire Farm Foods website Hello All, as luck would have it, my remote mail goes down over the weekend, so I couldn't access my work email. Thank you everyone for you help so far, I've got a fair few emails to work through, but certainly I've had lots of pointers in the right direction. I've got a meeting with our site designers, Headscape www.headscape.co.uk , Monday week to address all the issues so far, so hopefully you'll see some progress. Regarding the meal labels, as far as I know we've redesigned them with help from the RNIB so that they are easier for large-print readers and character recognition systems to process. I don't think we've gone down the Braille route as well, apologies for this. I had a mammoth recording session yesterday, so I've got a fair bit of editing of the audio catalogue to get through, but hopefully you'll be hearing my less-than-dulcet tones soon! 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