[jaws-uk] Re: Should Jaws be turned off when sighted people use our computers?

  • From: "Tiddy Ogg" <oggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:36:03 -0000

I admit my son leaves Jaws running when he's sorting things out for me,
but he knows generally what he's doing, and my input clarrifies other
points with Jaws' foibles.
But if the sighted person doesn't know the beast, shut it down.


-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: 28 March 2008 22:20
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Should Jaws be turned off when sighted people use
our computers?


but you cannot tell what the heck they are doing, and that is awful. I
noted 
Tony Berry RNib Volunteer now lapping up life in France  didn't know
Jaws or 
any screen reader but for my sake he  towards the end didn't turn Jaws
off 
ever, mind you  that poor Tony   truly hated Jaws, he said " It lies all
the 
time you cannot believe a thing it says" there was a reason for that
however 
Jana's was telling   Fibs because  it couldn't work well in Monochrome
by 
which I mean Jaws saw all White Text on a black background as Selected
or 
highlighted text and as a result didn't treat it normally, I had to  go
the 
long long road Mike to get to the bottom of that and Dr Lee Hamilton's
on 
the Bigwigs at Freedom  my cousin  who is sighted once sent I looked
over 
the Corporate Line up and saw all the  things and things Dr Hamilton
had 
done and I thought that is the one  to ask so I made a tape rerecording
and 
he could  hear and he asked Bryan carver Director of Technical support
to 
run trials, and do them again with Magic and the Bryan carver phoned me
from 
St Petersburg and spilled the beans,  it seems in times past  say
Windows 
98 and before Jaws would work that way but as it became more
sophisticated 
it really became more a product for totally blind  people but this was
not 
stated. I then set about finding a way myself tried to  get a man to
make a 
Switching box to invert the screen, he tried and failed then a Pal on
Jaws 
list  knew a way and that was Lunar. I am not saying it is easy it is
not it 
is blood sweat and tears Mike but having gone so far   I m not throwing
in 
the towel If I had know in the beginning that the first computer  I ever

bought in my life would put me through such an ordeal would I have
chosen 
it? No of course not, if I had known what  an ordeal I would go through
I 
would have jumped of the Pier in herne Bay, Ok I know you lost  it Mike
I mean your Pier .
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Pannell" <pianoman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:32 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Should Jaws be turned off when sighted people use
our 
computers?


Hello Angel,

The answer to your question is yes! because JAWS is a designated screen 
reader it does not relate to what appears on the screen especially when
the 
internet is concerned.

So yes, turn off JAWS when it is not required.  Whilst JAWS is reading
the 
screen the sighted person will experience the screen jumping all over
the 
place.

I hope this answers your question.

With best wishes,

Mike.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Angel238
  To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:45 PM
  Subject: [jaws-uk] Should Jaws be turned off when sighted people use
our 
computers?


  Just what is the relationship between how jaws reads and what appears
on 
the screen.  My children have always turned off Jaws when they used my 
computer.  They told me because I listen to Jaws at an extremely fast
pace 
they were unable to read what they chose.  They said they could read
better 
and scroll better with jaws off.  Is this true?
  "I'll be your friend with pleasure"


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