Hope this helps, I'm in Allegro 15.1 on the Sun, and 14.2 on the PC. Occasionally when I'm moving a part as you indicated, and want to rotate it, if I have trouble rotating, it's because of the options selected vs. the part, like the part might not have a pin#1 indicator, etc..... Once you are in the move command, look at your display box, click the options tab, Notice you now should see the menu: Rotation, Type, Angle, Point. On the "Point", click the drop down arrow, and change your settings, "Sym Origin", Body "Center", "User Pick", "Sym Pin#" Hope it helps BM -----Original Message----- From: J Wages [mailto:jwages@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:28 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Rotate function grey up when moving components I haven't noticed that happening, but I don't ever use the rotate option, using the mouse. When I move components I usually rotate them at least half the time, so I've aliased "rotate" to a function key. "alias F2 rotate" Good luck. Jim S. Wages / SR. PCB Layout Designer (919) 484-2963 -----Original Message----- From: Phaik Kiau Tan [mailto:phaikkiau@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:56 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Rotate function grey up when moving components Hi all gurus, I am using Allegro 15.1 s013. I met this kind of problem a few time during moving components in my layout, normally components can be rotated during move command, but currently, when in move command, rotate command had been grey up sometime. This problem happened to smaller components like 0603 or 0402, happened once a while, not frequence. Anyone had this kind of experience before? any suggestion to solve it?? thanks a lot, PK __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------