hi andy, you're right, 10 gb is not that big a deal. that wasn't the reason i posed the question. in fact i said i didn't think i would need it. but simply wanted to know as the braille user to this side of the unit why there was such a lag with the exception of the upgrade to the units since they have both been out. and tha't not an unfair question! -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:02 PM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: 40gb hd? dunno, although I thought that the brailleplus was created by APH? Sorry for that message--it was quite early in the morning and I can sometimes be a little grumpy in the mornings... I wasn't trying to offend anyone. And yes, I love braille too, and if I didn't know it, lets just say it'd be chaos. Maybe APH is at work on trying to get 40 gigs into the units right now. But honestly 10 gigs isn't that much of a big deal for me--might be for othehs--in that case just get a usb flashdrive. Not as portable, I know, but still excellent. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "denise avant" <dravant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Date sent: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:56:01 -0500 >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: 40gb hd? >hello, >No, i didn't have to buy the braille plus. that's neither here nor there as >it begs the question. the product has been thought of as a blindness related >product. reglardless of when the braille plus was developed, they're still >the same units. for your information, i got the braille plus because i read >and write braille, and am very proud and glad i know it. > so, i simply wanted to know why there was such a lag time for those of us >who love to use braille. >-----Original Message----- >From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy >Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 9:03 AM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: 40gb hd? >Want to know why) The braille plus was not in development as long as icon. >I think they're doing an excellent job considering they're, what, a year >apart? Also, you didn't have to get the braille plus. and 10 gigs makes no >difference at all to me--if the upgrade is available for the brailleplus >I'll get it, but otherwise I do not mind. >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "denise avant" <dravant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Date sent: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 01:02:08 -0500 >>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: 40gb hd? >>hello, >>if this sounds confrontational, i really do not mean it to be. >jenny said in >>her message that the upgrade costs does or shall i say she does >not think it >>applies to the braille plus users though i'm making the choice to >spend my >>dollars elsewhere, i wonder why the braille users of this unit >seem to lag >>behind everything having to do with this product, whether its the >docking >>station, braille keyboard shortcuts and now the hard drive. >we're always >>having to wait. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chase >Crispin >>Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 9:33 PM >>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: 40gb hd? >>Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know, LevelStar >wants to >>keep the price the same, no matter how tiny or gigantic the hard >drive is. >>Chase Crispin >>Administrator and moderator of the Blind Mobile Tech (BMT) blog, >and soon to >>be website! >>Blog: >>http://blindmobiletech.blogspot.com/ >> APH training video feed: >>http://www.youtube.com/BraillePlus/ >>Note: Most RSS readers and Podcatchers don't support this type >of feed. >>You can try, however, you just might have to open the page in >Internet >>Explorer and see what happens. >> e-mail: >>chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx >>-----Original Message----- >>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rob >Lambert >>Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:18 PM >>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: 40gb hd? >>I'm not sure if this has been responded to yet (as I usually >don't read all >>the stuff that comes in; there's too much of it) but I checked >the website >>and the 40 GB HDD Icon still sells for $1,395. >>---------------------------------------- >>> From: llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: 40gb hd? >>> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:35:49 -0500 >>> Jenny, Do you know the cost of this to the customer? Thanks. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jenny Axler" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 3:13 PM >>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: 40gb hd? >>>> Yes, new Icons currently have 40 GB hard drives. And yes, you >can >>upgrade >>>> your unit. If you choose to do this, you'll send your unit in, >they >>>> will place a 40 GB drive in your unit, and will send you your 30 >GB >>>> drive back in a USB enclosure which can then be used as an >external >>>> drive, and can >>be >>>> powered with Icon. >>>> Please note: right now, this only applies to Icons. As far as I >>>> know, Braille + units still have 30 GB drives. >>>> Jenny >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "David Poehlman" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:32 AM >>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] 40gb hd? >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I noticed that the Icon now lists a 40gb hd. As far as I >remember, >>>>> it formerly had 30. When did this change and can we upgrade? >>>>> Icon Discuss Mailing List >>>>> icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with >unsubscribe >>>>> in >>the >>>>> subject line to: >>>>> icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> To post to this list, send your message to: >>>>> icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon >and >>Braille >>>>> +, Visit >>>>> the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>>>> Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>>>> http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>>>> Visit the APH FAQ page at >>>>> http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG. >>>>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: >>4/5/2008 >>>>> 7:53 AM >>>> Icon Discuss Mailing List >>>> icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >>>> To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with >unsubscribe in >>>> the subject line to: >>>> icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> To post to this list, send your message to: >>>> icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon >and >>>> Braille >>>> +, Visit >>>> the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>>> Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>>> http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>>> Visit the APH FAQ page at >>>> http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html >>> Icon Discuss Mailing List >>> icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> //www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >>> To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with >unsubscribe in >>> the >>subject line to: >>> icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> To post to this list, send your message to: >>> icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon >and >>> Braille >>+, Visit >>> the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>> Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>> http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>> Visit the APH FAQ page at >>> http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html >>_________________________________________________________________ >>More immediate than e-mail? 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