[ian-reeds-games] Re: Friends= flag for teams not working correctly even for player team

  • From: Monkey <murtagh69.monkeys@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 23:11:35 -0600

To be fair, you still probably came up with it first.

On 5/28/15, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I guess great minds think alike, grin.

Al

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Personally I think I already use something similar in my maps...

On 5/28/15, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
What I was doing with StarCraft, was instead of simply casting on
units for an effect. The skill would instead do a point of damage on a
point that the unit has for example you could give certain units a
blessed
point of one.
The cleric casts the blessed spell which does one damage to the
blessed point knocking it down to zero.

In the blessed point file simply have the at zero flag set to in
effect that gives the unit the effect desired. Set the effect for
however long and when the effect is over restore the blessed points.

Granted, it's not perfect but it might work. I use the same effect for
damaging specific units such as biological, mechanical, etc. so forth.

Hope that helps, or at least gives you some new ideas, grin.



Al





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Ward
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Friends= flag for teams not working
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Basically. I want it to be possible for the AI to use buffing skills
on units from allied teams but it always throws fits when you try it
with the friendly flag, apparently. Taking off the friendly flag means
the skill could potentially be used on enemies if the unit was
AI-controlled, though, and I don't want this either.

Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 23:03:13 +0100
From: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Friends= flag for teams not working
correctly even for player team

What's the desired functionality here. To be able to cast skills with
friendly flag on units of teams that the casting unit's team has set
to friendly? I can take a look and see why it's not doing that if so.

On 27/05/2015 19:39, Monkey wrote:
For the AI to use them then you probably need enemy, friendly, self
or tile specified...not entirely sure on that, but it didn't use
those skills when I tried.

On 5/27/15, Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I could set it to work on certain unit types and then take out the
friendly
flag. I'll try that now and see how it goes. Thanks for the tip! I
didn't
know you could do that with skills, honestly. I thought you needed
an
enemy
or friendly flag in the file for them to work at all.

From: allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Friends= flag for teams not working
correctly
even for player team
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 10:38:46 -0400

Sometimes, if you don't designate his skill as friendly nor enemy,
the
unit
will be able to use that skill on any unit from any team. I know
it's
not a
great work around but maybe it'll help you if the skill isn't a
big
deal. Al
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Sharni-Lee
Ward
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 6:00 AM
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Friends= flag for teams not working
correctly
even for player team Hi again,

I've mentioned this before, but I hadn't tested it with my player
team
until
this evening.

The friends=flag doesn't seem to be working very well. I set it so
my
player
team was friends with several other teams who are enemies of their
enemies,
and then tried to use a buffing skill on one of the allied teams'
units. It
said "You don't want to help your enemies!" ...That's not supposed
to happen.

I knew the AI had issues with this flag before, but I didn't
realise it
was
this buggy before now. I'd have thought it would be simple enough
to
create
an allies flag like the enemies flag. It's the main problem with
teams
that
I've noticed and I'd hope it can be fixed in the next full
release. My
maps
focus on a certain group of characters but if there are others
doing
their
thing in the background like the Resistance and so on, then it
would
feel
more real. :)







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