[hsa] Re: The plot thickens.....

  • From: Rob Boudrie <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: hsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,Keith G. Langer <langerlaw@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 14:26:07 -0400

Fitting, since the entire island nation is full of sheep.

On 3/17/2019 11:49 AM, Keith G. Langer wrote:

Sounds that way.

Expect the Kiwis to follow suit, however.

KGL
 
 
 
 
Really?    So they cannot tighten them by adding gun registration
(nope, they do not have it yet...) or banning EBRs (currently
legal).   *You may be confusing the Kiwis with the Roos*.
On 3/17/2019 9:49 AM, Laurie Kraynick wrote:

    The only way to make gun laws tighter in NZ is to ban the sale of
    gun books or magazines.
     
    *From:*hsa-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hsa-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
    *On Behalf Of *Martin Stark
    *Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 5:13 AM
    *To:* hsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    *Subject:* [hsa] Re: The plot thickens.....
     
    We all saw this coming- 
    
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/03/17/prime-minister-vows-tighter-gun-laws-new-zealand-attack/3192997002/
    
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    On Mar 16, 2019, at 8:12 PM, (Redacted sender "sooth123" for
    DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        weren't, or aren't they very tight on handguns?
         
        In a message dated 3/16/2019 7:55:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
        brian@xxxxxxxx <mailto:brian@xxxxxxxx> writes:
         

             
             
            Interesting, does that mean him being an Aussie would
            allow him to purchase one in the Kiwi nation? Or would he
            have to have someone else buy it for him (what we would
            call a straw purchase)?

            On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Rob Boudrie <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx
            <mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                EBRS are, for the moment, legal in NZ with a firearms
                license and not even registered.    We do have a Kiwi
                who shoots the monthly matches.
                On 3/16/2019 7:19 PM, Brian Laska wrote:

                     
                    Just the title itself is cringe worthy. He started
                    the assault with a semi-auto shotgun and dumped it
                    when it went dry (or malfunctioned).
                     
                    Seems that he may have had airsoft quality gear on
                    the first AR (this is my opinion). Why you ask?
                    Well, he lost the mounted flashlight at some point
                    and swapped ARs later. I am assuming the RDS was
                    not working anymore. The first one had a lot of
                    rounds on it, so that is another possibility.
                     
                    Had a pump shotgun in the vehicle where he tried
                    to shoot out the windshield. I believe this is
                    because he initially intended to mow people down
                    in an alley whilst shooting. Instead, he stopped
                    180 degrees to an ally & shot out the passenger
                    window at people.
                     
                    The gun either malfunctioned or ran out of shells,
                    but as he is putting it down, you hear a pop that
                    could have been someone shooting back (again, my
                    own assessment). He then drives off and there is
                    not much more to the video. He still had at least
                    2 long guns next to him when he drove off, so this
                    is where I get my ‘someone shot back’ assumption.
                     
                    It is not impossible to get anything you want
                    anywhere you are. As long as you have the money &
                    connections (I would assume dark web marketplaces
                    in this fucking asshole’s case), there aren’t many
                    limits. This guy was an 8chan idiot, which leads
                    me to assume he knew how to work the dark web or
                    at least had resources at his fingertips.
                     
                    This guy was, in no way, an inexperienced shooter.
                    He know how to clear jams/malfunctions, aim,
                    reload and handle his weapons. He either had
                    training or a shitload of practice.
                     
                    Fucking disgusting, all of it.
                     
                     

                         
                        On Mar 16, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Rob Boudrie
                        <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
                         
                        The quote said they had not seen one used
                        (presumably meaning "in an attack")
                        On 3/16/2019 6:38 PM, Keith G. Langer wrote:

                            No-one Down Under has an an AR? Hard to
                            believe.
                             
                            Who's the "counter-terrorism expert;"
                            Brian Williams?
                             
                            KGL
                             
                             
                             
                             
                            “A counter-terrorism *expert* has said a
                            military-style assault rifle allegedly
                            used in Friday's Christchurch massacre has
                            never seen before in Australia and New
                            Zealand.”
                             
                            
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6816265/Christchurch-killer-weapons-authorities-never-seen-used-Australia-New-Zealand.html
                            
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