[hsa] Re: The plot thickens.....

  • From: Rob Boudrie <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: hsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,Thalheimer <thalheimer@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 21:05:57 -0400

The object was reportedly an empty gun the assassin dropped.

On 3/16/2019 8:33 PM, Thalheimer wrote:

You might be the only one of us that saw the actual livestream. It's
been taken down on every social media platform.  The broken window was
not return fire. Somebody threw an object at the guy's car and broke
the window, essentially scaring him away and ending the carnage. 



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-------- Original message --------
From: Brian Laska <brian@xxxxxxxx>
Date: 3/16/19 20:29 (GMT-05:00)
To: hsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hsa] Re: The plot thickens.....


Good point, I missed that. 


On Mar 16, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Thalheimer <thalheimer@xxxxxxx
<mailto:thalheimer@xxxxxxx>> wrote:

Bob was asking if NZ strictly controls handguns? I don't think so,
certainly not like AU.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Brian Laska <brian@xxxxxxxx <mailto:brian@xxxxxxxx>>
Date: 3/16/19 20:15 (GMT-05:00)
To: hsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [hsa] Re: The plot thickens.....


No handguns as far as I saw. 



On Mar 16, 2019, at 8:12 PM, (Redacted sender "sooth123" for DMARC)
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

weren't, or aren't they very tight on handguns?

In a message dated 3/16/2019 7:55:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
brian@xxxxxxxx <mailto:brian@xxxxxxxx> writes:



    Interesting, does that mean him being an Aussie would allow him
    to purchase one in the Kiwi nation? Or would he have to have
    someone else buy it for him (what we would call a straw purchase)?

    On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Rob Boudrie <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        EBRS are, for the moment, legal in NZ with a firearms
        license and not even registered.    We do have a Kiwi who
        shoots the monthly matches.

        On 3/16/2019 7:19 PM, Brian Laska wrote:


            Just the title itself is cringe worthy. He started the
            assault with a semi-auto shotgun and dumped it when it
            went dry (or malfunctioned).

            Seems that he may have had airsoft quality gear on the
            first AR (this is my opinion). Why you ask? Well, he
            lost the mounted flashlight at some point and swapped
            ARs later. I am assuming the RDS was not working
            anymore. The first one had a lot of rounds on it, so
            that is another possibility.

            Had a pump shotgun in the vehicle where he tried to
            shoot out the windshield. I believe this is because he
            initially intended to mow people down in an alley whilst
            shooting. Instead, he stopped 180 degrees to an ally &
            shot out the passenger window at people.

            The gun either malfunctioned or ran out of shells, but
            as he is putting it down, you hear a pop that could have
            been someone shooting back (again, my own assessment).
            He then drives off and there is not much more to the
            video. He still had at least 2 long guns next to him
            when he drove off, so this is where I get my ‘someone
            shot back’ assumption.

            It is not impossible to get anything you want anywhere
            you are. As long as you have the money & connections (I
            would assume dark web marketplaces in this fucking
            asshole’s case), there aren’t many limits. This guy was
            an 8chan idiot, which leads me to assume he knew how to
            work the dark web or at least had resources at his
            fingertips.

            This guy was, in no way, an inexperienced shooter. He
            know how to clear jams/malfunctions, aim, reload and
            handle his weapons. He either had training or a shitload
            of practice.

            Fucking disgusting, all of it.



                On Mar 16, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Rob Boudrie
                <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                The quote said they had not seen one used
                (presumably meaning "in an attack")

                On 3/16/2019 6:38 PM, Keith G. Langer wrote:

                    No-one Down Under has an an AR? Hard to believe.


                    Who's the "counter-terrorism expert;" Brian
                    Williams?

                    KGL




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