[hsa] Re: The plot thickens.....

  • From: Rob Boudrie <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: hsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,Laurie Kraynick <lauriekraynick@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 10:14:21 -0400

Really?    So they cannot tighten them by adding gun registration (nope,
they do not have it yet...) or banning EBRs (currently legal).   You may
be confusing the Kiwis with the Roos.

On 3/17/2019 9:49 AM, Laurie Kraynick wrote:


The only way to make gun laws tighter in NZ is to ban the sale of gun
books or magazines.

 

*From:*hsa-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hsa-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Martin Stark
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 5:13 AM
*To:* hsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [hsa] Re: The plot thickens.....

 

We all saw this coming- 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/03/17/prime-minister-vows-tighter-gun-laws-new-zealand-attack/3192997002/

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 16, 2019, at 8:12 PM, (Redacted sender "sooth123" for DMARC)
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    weren't, or aren't they very tight on handguns?

     

    In a message dated 3/16/2019 7:55:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
    brian@xxxxxxxx <mailto:brian@xxxxxxxx> writes:

     

         

         

        Interesting, does that mean him being an Aussie would allow
        him to purchase one in the Kiwi nation? Or would he have to
        have someone else buy it for him (what we would call a straw
        purchase)?


        On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Rob Boudrie <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

            EBRS are, for the moment, legal in NZ with a firearms
            license and not even registered.    We do have a Kiwi who
            shoots the monthly matches.

            On 3/16/2019 7:19 PM, Brian Laska wrote:

                 

                Just the title itself is cringe worthy. He started the
                assault with a semi-auto shotgun and dumped it when it
                went dry (or malfunctioned).

                 

                Seems that he may have had airsoft quality gear on the
                first AR (this is my opinion). Why you ask? Well, he
                lost the mounted flashlight at some point and swapped
                ARs later. I am assuming the RDS was not working
                anymore. The first one had a lot of rounds on it, so
                that is another possibility.

                 

                Had a pump shotgun in the vehicle where he tried to
                shoot out the windshield. I believe this is because he
                initially intended to mow people down in an alley
                whilst shooting. Instead, he stopped 180 degrees to an
                ally & shot out the passenger window at people.

                 

                The gun either malfunctioned or ran out of shells, but
                as he is putting it down, you hear a pop that could
                have been someone shooting back (again, my own
                assessment). He then drives off and there is not much
                more to the video. He still had at least 2 long guns
                next to him when he drove off, so this is where I get
                my ‘someone shot back’ assumption.

                 

                It is not impossible to get anything you want anywhere
                you are. As long as you have the money & connections
                (I would assume dark web marketplaces in this fucking
                asshole’s case), there aren’t many limits. This guy
                was an 8chan idiot, which leads me to assume he knew
                how to work the dark web or at least had resources at
                his fingertips.

                 

                This guy was, in no way, an inexperienced shooter. He
                know how to clear jams/malfunctions, aim, reload and
                handle his weapons. He either had training or a
                shitload of practice.

                 

                Fucking disgusting, all of it.

                 

                 

                     

                    On Mar 16, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Rob Boudrie
                    <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                     

                    The quote said they had not seen one used
                    (presumably meaning "in an attack")

                    On 3/16/2019 6:38 PM, Keith G. Langer wrote:

                        No-one Down Under has an an AR? Hard to believe.

                         

                        Who's the "counter-terrorism expert;" Brian
                        Williams?

                         

                        KGL

                         

                         

                         

                         

                        “A counter-terrorism *expert* has said a
                        military-style assault rifle allegedly used in
                        Friday's Christchurch massacre has never seen
                        before in Australia and New Zealand.”

                         

                        
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