Hi, On 2010-04-09 at 21:57:49 [+0200], Jorge G. Mare <koki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Nickos V wrote: > > > I am sorry, but you got it upside down. I was the one insulted! It is > > > Matt Madia who insulted me. > > > > Yes, Matt insulted you and it was uncalled for. Everyone on this list > > saw it. No need to bring it up over & over. Let it go. > > There are two very distinct parts to this thread, one before Matt's > "assholes can ruin your project" hit and run, and another that took life > after (and as a result of) it. just a quick reply to this thread for the record. I agree that Matt's mail was uncalled for and I can see why you were personally offended by it. Don't know about insulted, but don't want to embark in a discussion about that. I just wanted to get it off my chest that I find your mail about how there is this supposed "in-group" and "out-group" and "powerful" and "powerless" individuals in the community much more hurtful to the project, especially at this timing where new people are introduced into our community with GSoC. How you operate with these terms and how you picture this community is very disappointing. I don't agree with the "getting away with" part either. For example, I voice my opinion right now (I was traveling to BeGeistert before I even got a chance to read and reply to this) and am expressing that I believe Matt's mail was unjustified. We have never banned anyone from this list, so everyone has gotten away in the same way up to now. People are free to take sides or not and to voice their opinion or not. The rest, about there being and in-group and out-group is completely your construct. That's it from me, I won't contribute any more to this thread, but with the new GSoC students having to read all this, I felt like I wanted to say at least this much to try to ballance some of what you pictured. Best regards, -Stephan