On 9 April 2010 16:31, Jorge G. Mare <koki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Jatsek, > > Jatsek Platsek wrote: >> >> Simon Taylor wrote: >> * >> *> Jatsek you need to be a little more careful when entering a community >> > and insulting some of the long-standing contributors. Koki has a history >> > of ruffling feathers, which I agree is not always a bad thing. Matt has >> > done a hell of a lot of work on the Haiku Inc side of things. >> >> Simon, is it only me who finds what Mr. Madia did rude and impolite? >> >> My reaction was perfectly normal. I would do the same if he attacked >> anyone else. It had nothing to do with the fact that he attacked Jorge, >> who seems to share my point of view when it comes to so called 'focus'. > > What you are witnessing is Haiku's long-standing clique-driven double > standard in play. If you are "in", you can get away pretty much with > anything you say. But if you are "out", then you are subject to second class > citizen status and thus are not supposed to speak up your mind; if you do, > then be ready to be labeled an annoying person at the very list or to be > totally chastised, insulted and other niceties in the worst case. > > That's why many people fear to speak up their mind here; everyone is always > afraid that they may tick off the powerful. This is what enables the clique > to have a monopoly that empowers them to put anyone that they don't like or > agree with down and out. Like they have done with you, basically. :) > > Whether you are part of the clique or not does not depend on how much you > contribute. The "you have insulted a long time contributor" argument that > people bring up repeatedly to support the clique is a total fallacy. I am a > long time contributor who has dedicated as much or maybe even more time to > Haiku than Mr. Madia, but because he is part of the clique and I am not, he > gets to insult me without anyone even raising a finger. You see the double > standard, don't you? You forgot the thunder sound effect that goes with this email. N>